Locobase cannot pin down this locomotive, but its firebox was considerably bigger than that of the three F class locomotives supplied by Schenectady in 1895 (Locobase 1179). This was presumably adopted to handle the anthracite coal that was this engine's diet.
The builder described the design in its 1897 catalogue and reported: "Locomotives of this type are in the New York, Saratoga and Montreal Passenger service on the Delaware and Hudson Railroad."
Locobase believes that this class was a hybrid of 5 new locomotives supplied by Dickson in 1886-1891 (works 533-534, 724, 802-803) and 3 that were rebuilds of older Dicksons. One of these originally bore works #10 and was delivered in 1867. The other two came in 1873 (142) and 1874 (160).
Dickson's supply of locomotives to the D & H included one of its earliest, an Eight-wheeler bearing the works #24 and thus coming on the road in the late 1860s. It was rebuilt in 1884 by the railroad's own shops.
When Dickson supplied a big order of locomotives to the D & H, two had 62" drivers. (See Locobase 8372). The other 13 had the 68" drivers shown here. The locomotives arrived in batches over a 7-year period. Two -- works #427-428 -- came in 1883, 546-549 in 1886, 568-569 and 571-572 in 1887, 627 in 1888, and 753-754 in 1890.
Rebuilt by the D&H. Variety of original dates, all engines originally built by Dickson except 379 (Schenectady).
Same power specs as the 1896 Dicksons, but heavier on the front trucks. ( In addition, the boiler had 8 more tubes, but the grate was smaller.
1924 (391), and 1925 (392).
Locobase can't match these to any entry on JF Webber's list of Dickson locomotives (conveyed to Locobase by Allen Stanley in March 2004).But the D&HCo 1901 Locomotive Diagrams (supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection) shows a match with the F-1s that came from Dickson as works #927-929.
This pair of Dicksons had relatively big grates for the mid-1880s. Their works numbers were consecutive: 577-578.
http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/dh/dh-stm-bk-html locomotive diagrams supplied much of the data.
Part of the G-5 class (ref 1182), but rebuilt as single-cab locomotives in the late 1920s. Note the increase in cylinder diameter and boiler pressure. Engines converted were 442 (Dec 29), 445 (Feb 27), 446 (May 28), 447 (Dec 29), 450 (May 28), 451 (June 29), and 457 (July 27). Class retired in 1930s-1940s.
http://gelwood.railfan.net/other/dh/dh-stm-bk-html's locomotive diagram shows that this superheated set broke into two subclasses based on weight. To Locobase's eye, these rebuilds had a pleasingly rangy look to them owing to a high-pitched boiler and a long driver wheelbase.
Six Baldwin Eight-wheelers delivered in 1875 (works #3742, 3754, 3756-57, 3759-3760) were updated and modified by the D & H's own shops in 1890-1893. Oneonta reworked 396 & 399 while Green Island rebuilt the others. It's not clear to Locobase just what might have been changed in the overhaul. 397 was later rebuilt again in 1904 as an inspection engine.
The only difference in the two classes of Dickson rebuilds lay in its driver diameters; the two Ls rode on 68" drivers. Otherwise, all of the original engines fell into the works # range 143-162 (although the last K-1 is shown as having been delivered in 1884).
In the company of other D & H rebuilds, the O-1 Eight-wheeler represented a mixture of Schenectady and Taunton-built locomotives from earlier days. One of the Schenectady engines was delivered as that builder's works #404; other engines were 629 & 725. Also, the class included engines with different driver diameters - 3 had the 62" drivers shown in the specs, 1 Schenectady rolled on 68" drivers while two more had 57 1/2" go wheels.
Locobase wonders about the dates in the rebuild column (1871, 1875, 1884) but doesn't have a better explanation.
Rebuilt by the D&H with double (camelback) cabs, Wooten firebox. Original builder and year:
421 Smith & Jackson 1871
422 Danforth & Cooke 1876
423-426 Dickson 1866-1867.
The 1901 book shows 209 boiler tubes, the 1930 edition credits the boiler with 211 small tubes.
Retired 1924 (421-22, 426), 1926 (423, 425), and 1935 (424).
Double (camelback) cabs. Firebox heating surface included 104 sq ft of "water bars".
V-Is were two rebuilds by the Green Island shops, one built at Oneonta and one at Carbondale. Out of service in 1926 (433-434) and 1930 (432, 435).
V-IIs were four Green Island new-builds of 1900-1901. Lighter on the drivers (86,650 lb) and trucks (128,250 lb overall). Retired in 1927 (427), 1928 (437), and 1930 (428, 436).
This class was built at the D & H's Green Island shops. Like many of the other 4-4-0s run by this anthracite road, the V-IIIs were double-cabs (camelbacks). A somewhat unusual visual highpoint were the rounded domes before and after the cab. According to Jim Shaughnessy's tabulation (in his Delaware & Hudson, 1982 (reprint 1997), the first to retire was the 439, which was scrapped in September 1926. 441 followed in December 1928, then 438 & 440 were cut up in September 1935.
| Specifications | ||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | D | D-1 | E | E-1 // G-4b | F / G-4d | F-1 / G-4c | G | G-5 | G-5[S] | H // G-1c | K-1/L | O-1 | T-1 // G-3 | V-1/V-2 // G-4e/f | V-III // G-4g | |
| Locobase ID | 11110 | 8375 | 8374 | 8373 | 1177 | 1179 | 1178 | 8372 | 1182 | 1183 | 1175 | 8368 | 8365 | 1176 | 1180 | 8380 |
| Railroad | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson | Delaware & Hudson |
| Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
| Road Numbers | 121 | 351-358 | 359 | 360-372 | 374-381, 384, 386-87 | 388-390 | 391-393 | 394-395 | 442-457 | 442+ | 396-401 | 401-413 | 414-420 | 421-426 | 427-437 | 438-441 |
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | Schenectady | Dickson | D & H | Dickson | D & H | Schenectady | Dickson | Dickson | Alco | D & H | Burnham, Williams & Co | D & H | D & H | D & H | D & H | D & H |
| Year | 1897 | 1886 | 1883 | 1883 | 1896 | 1895 | 1895 | 1887 | 1903 | 1927 | 1890 | 1888 | 1875 | 1898 | 1899 | 1901 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
| Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||||||||||||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 8.50' | 8' | 7.29' | 8' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8' | 8.50' | 9' | 8' | 8' | 7.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 23.08' | 22' | 20.82' | 22.17' | 22.67' | 23.08' | 22.92' | 22.17' | 23.50' | 23.92' | 22.23' | 22.06' | 20.92' | 22.67' | 23.42' | 23.50' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.35 | 0.36 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.38 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.36 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 49.33' | 44.67' | 44.57' | 45.33' | 47.75' | 49.42' | 52.33' | 45.33' | 51.90' | 50.42' | 52.94' | 43.06' | 42.25' | 49.25' | 50' | 50.23' |
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | ||||||||||||||||
| Weight on Drivers | 87000 lbs | 66500 lbs | 50600 lbs | 72180 lbs | 79000 lbs | 89700 lbs | 80600 lbs | 72180 lbs | 96000 lbs | 100600 lbs | 59100 lbs | 58800 lbs | 53300 lbs | 79400 lbs | 90300 lbs | 90000 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 126700 lbs | 96500 lbs | 72600 lbs | 100160 lbs | 112200 lbs | 128490 lbs | 117000 lbs | 100160 lbs | 150000 lbs | 157700 lbs | 89600 lbs | 86200 lbs | 78700 lbs | 116900 lbs | 129100 lbs | 134000 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 85860 lbs | 62700 lbs | 45400 lbs | 59640 lbs | 81500 lbs | 85860 lbs | 84200 lbs | 59640 lbs | 96400 lbs | 81450 lbs | 89600 lbs | 60300 lbs | 65000 lbs | 68200 lbs | 69500 lbs | 96400 lbs |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 212560 lbs | 159200 lbs | 118000 lbs | 159800 lbs | 193700 lbs | 214350 lbs | 201200 lbs | 159800 lbs | 246400 lbs | 239150 lbs | 179200 lbs | 146500 lbs | 143700 lbs | 185100 lbs | 198600 lbs | 230400 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 4000 gals | 2860 gals | 2100 gals | 3400 gals | 4000 gals | 4000 gals | 4000 gals | 3400 gals | 6000 gals | 6800 gals | 3213 gals | 2940 gals | 3090 gals | 4000 gals | 4000 gals | 6000 gals |
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 9 tons | 5.5 tons | 4.5 tons | 7 tons | 8 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 7 tons | 12 tons | 14 tons | 7.8 tons | 6.7 tons | 6.7 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 12 tons |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 73 lb rail | 55 lb rail | 42 lb rail | 60 lb rail | 66 lb rail | 75 lb rail | 67 lb rail | 60 lb rail | 80 lb rail | 84 lb rail | 49 lb rail | 49 lb rail | 44 lb rail | 66 lb rail | 75 lb rail | 75 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||||||||||||||
| Driver Diameter | 68.50" | 62.50" | 62.50" | 68" | 69" | 69" | 69" | 62.50" | 69" | 69" | 62" | 62.50" | 62" | 69" | 69" | 69" |
| Boiler Pressure | 180 psi | 130 psi | 130 psi | 145 psi | 165 psi | 170 psi | 170 psi | 145 psi | 190 psi | 200 psi | 130 psi | 130 psi | 130 psi | 165 psi | 175 psi | 200 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 19" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 17" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 20" x 24" | 20.5" x 24" | 17" x 24" | 17" x 24" | 16" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 19" x 24" |
| Tractive Effort | 19352 lbs | 13748 lbs | 12263 lbs | 15704 lbs | 17611 lbs | 18144 lbs | 18144 lbs | 17085 lbs | 22470 lbs | 24850 lbs | 12362 lbs | 12263 lbs | 10950 lbs | 15806 lbs | 18678 lbs | 21346 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.50 | 4.84 | 4.13 | 4.60 | 4.49 | 4.94 | 4.44 | 4.22 | 4.27 | 4.05 | 4.78 | 4.79 | 4.87 | 5.02 | 4.83 | 4.22 |
| Heating Ability | ||||||||||||||||
| Firebox Area | 187.70 sq. ft | 152 sq. ft | 126 sq. ft | 128 sq. ft | 128 sq. ft | 132 sq. ft | 128 sq. ft | 180 sq. ft | 180 sq. ft | 109 sq. ft | 106 sq. ft | 94 sq. ft | 137 sq. ft | 274 sq. ft | 193.50 sq. ft | |
| Grate Area | 37.20 sq. ft | 28.10 sq. ft | 23.80 sq. ft | 36.15 sq. ft | 37.30 sq. ft | 37 sq. ft | 42 sq. ft | 36.15 sq. ft | 79.91 sq. ft | 79.91 sq. ft | 22.50 sq. ft | 24.40 sq. ft | 23.30 sq. ft | 71.25 sq. ft | 80 sq. ft | 79.86 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 1859 | 1347 | 987 | 1300 | 1899 | 1787 | 1742 | 1300 | 2140 | 1617 | 1277 | 1250 | 874 | 1636 | 2032 | 2232 |
| Superheating Surface | 344 | |||||||||||||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 1859 | 1347 | 987 | 1300 | 1899 | 1787 | 1742 | 1300 | 2140 | 1961 | 1277 | 1250 | 874 | 1636 | 2032 | 2232 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 236.04 | 190.56 | 156.54 | 165.06 | 241.12 | 226.90 | 221.18 | 165.06 | 245.23 | 176.37 | 202.54 | 198.26 | 156.49 | 231.45 | 258.01 | 283.40 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||||||||||||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 6696 | 3653 | 3094 | 5242 | 6155 | 6290 | 7140 | 5242 | 15183 | 15982 | 2925 | 3172 | 3029 | 11756 | 14000 | 15972 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 6696 | 3653 | 3094 | 5242 | 6155 | 6290 | 7140 | 5242 | 15183 | 19178 | 2925 | 3172 | 3029 | 11756 | 14000 | 15972 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 33786 | 19760 | 16380 | 18560 | 0 | 21760 | 22440 | 18560 | 34200 | 43200 | 14170 | 13780 | 12220 | 22605 | 47950 | 38700 |
| Power L1 | 7299 | 4036 | 3473 | 4048 | 0 | 6025 | 5962 | 3721 | 7612 | 14081 | 3882 | 3823 | 3233 | 6231 | 8693 | 9344 |
| Power MT | 369.92 | 267.60 | 302.63 | 247.28 | 0 | 296.16 | 326.15 | 227.30 | 349.62 | 617.16 | 289.62 | 286.68 | 267.45 | 346.02 | 424.47 | 457.78 |
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