The publication of which the edition used by Locobase was a reprint was a document presented to both Houses of the General Assembly of New Zealand by Command of His Excellency in 1878. At issue was how the demand for motive power on New Zealand's railways should be met - through the purchase of the mother country's locomotives or by continuing to buy American engines.
To back up a rebuttal to a critic of American locomotive design, W W Evans cites Zerah Colburn's 1855 test of an Erie locomotive when he was General Manager. Colburn first assembled a train of 100 cars loaded with "deals" weighing a total of 1,572 long tons and "a few feet more than half a mile long" and ran it along a nearly level (ruling grade of 0.12% or 1 in 880) gradient for 4 miles at 5 mph. On a "dead-level" 5-mile section that had gentle curves of 957-foot radius, the locomotive managed 9.7 mph. Then Colburn cut the trailing load to 30 cars weighing 514 tons and recorded the train ascending a 1 in 117.5 (0.45%) grade at 10.25 mph.
Evans concludes:"Allowing for resistances due to gravity and also to concussions and frictions of engine and train, the coefficient of adhesion must have been 1/3 the weight on driving wheels." In later measurements, the fraction of adhesion (weight on drivers divided by tractive effort) comes to 3.14. So slippery a proportion suggests a very careful manipulation of throttle and liberal use of sand in all of these trials.
30 engines built by Brooks, Danforth, Grant, and the Erie's own Susquehanna shop from 1880 to 1882.
Originally the Atlantic & Great Western, this line was an important component in the Erie system and spent much of its life leased to the Erie, in receivership, or both. 1882 saw a much deeper involvement in the Nypano (as the NY, P & O was more familiarly known) that culminated years later in the retirement of NY, P & O securities in favor of Erie paper.
As Edward Harold Mott described the union in Between the Ocean and the Lakes: The Story of Erie (1907)
" The long-conflicting, costly, and harassing relations of the Erie with this railroad were at last set at rest forever by an agreement whereby the Erie should operate the road at a fixed annual rental until it could be sold under foreclosure proceedings and reorganized into the Erie system. After due proceedings in the courts, the property was sold at public auction February 25, 1896, and purchased by a committee in behalf of the Erie."
During its "separate" existence, the railroad's shops at Meadville and Galion built this class of Eight-wheelers. They were slightly larger versions of the design that would later be classed as D-17; see Locobase 9226.
Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and tables in December 1894 American Engineer and Railroad Journal (AERJ).
90 engines built from 1879 to 1885 in the Susquehanna shop, Grant, Dickson, and Jersey City. Boiler was smaller than the D-2.
Although these homebuilt Eight-wheelers had small grates and boilers even for the mid-1870s, they stood relatively high in the amount of weight they put on their drivers. And they showed a good amount of tractive effort. The NY, P & O shops would add to the stud with engines later classified as D-16s; see Locobase 9227.
The first high-drivered Eight-wheelers on the Erie came into service in 1896 (See Locobase 9221) and built new by the Susquehanna shops. Three years later, Meadville shops came out with 4 of their own. The table at the front implies that these were rebuilds of D-9 (Locobase 9222), which were smaller and older.
Locobase finds that unlikely, given the larger grate and bigger boiler, the latter pressed to a much higher pressure. Moreover, there's one more D-12 than there were D-9s. So these are new Express engines to go with the D-11s supplied by Susquehanna.
This locomotive was converted by Cooke to a cross-compound layout, according to Westing, but the cylinder dimensions are not given, or what we see in the diagram is the HP cylinder only. In any case, it was a "one-off".
Two D-9s were converted by Baldwin as Vauclain compounds; their HP cylinders measured 12 1/2" diameter, the LPs only 21". The compounding ratio thus was a hefty 2.85. It can't have been too long before the engines were simplified as shown in the specfications.
The Pennsylvania Coal Company bought these two camelbacks (works #8717, 8725) from Baldwin with an obvious eye toward operating mountain-oriented local passenger service. They were rebuilt by Dickson in 1896 ( that's what this entry's specifications describe) and later taken into the Erie when that railroad bought the E & WV from Pennsylvania Coal.
Much larger 4-4-0 and one of the last for the Erie. The wide grate indicated the camelback layout, which has the steam dome behind the cab. These two engines started out as New York & Lake Erie engines 66-67, built by Danforth, Cooke and delivered in 1880. Baldwin rebuilt them for the Erie. 386 was scrapped first in March 1913 with 385 following in December 1920.
This was a large class of camelback Eight-wheelers. The tiny HP cylinders limited the whole Vauclain compound system's ability to handle the steam. Most were converted to simple expansion in several variants. One such conversion resulted in dimensions identical to those of the D-5 (see Locobase 363). Others were more substantially altered; see Locobase 6696 and 6697.
Converting the D-6 class of camelback Eight-wheelers led to three different versions. This one is identified on the diagram as having a D flue sheet (as opposed to the straight flue sheet shown in Locobase 6697). The diagrams raise many questions. How can this version, which has a few fewer tubes than the straight flue version, but of larger diameter, have had so much less heating surface?
This was a large class of camelback Eight-wheelers. When the D-6 Vauclain compounds were simpled, three different versions resulted. This one is identified on the diagram as having a straight flue sheet (as opposed to the D flue sheet shown in Locobase 6697). Locobase does not know why a "straight flue sheet" would result in so many fewer tubes and so small a firebox, even though the overall heating surface area rose.
The Erie threw itself into compounding and extended its reach to these small Americans. Note the small size of both the HP cylinders and the boiler tubes; see Locobase 6697 for another version.
Like the D-6s, these were soon simplified; see Locobase 9219.
As noted in Locobase 6695 and 6697, simplifying the Vauclain compounds that had been created out of earlier locomotives took several forms. The D-7 compound that was the source of the current entry (see Locobase 9218) originally had 2" tubes. A variant not reflected in the D-6 series was one in which a combustion chamber added some heating surface to the firebox, but reduced tube length and consequently required more of the tiny 1 1/2" tubes.
This quintet from Rogers followed the pattern of Eight-wheelers on the Erie at the time. One odd holdover was the small grate, however, which matched the size of engines bought a decade earlier.
AERJ noted that at that point this class was in heavy commuter service with local expresses. Also used for division work in express service.
Among the Eight-wheelers turned out by the Erie's Susquehanna shops was this duodecade of relatively large locomotives with equally sizable grates.
Most of the Erie's assortment of Eight-wheelers were mixed-traffic engines, but this pair were intended for express passenger service. Built at the Susquehanna shops, they were followed 3 years later by 4 similar locomotives with bigger cylinders; see Locobase 9222.
| Specifications | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Class | A / D-1 | A / D-16 | A / D-2 | B / D-3 | CA & CE / D-17 | D-12 | D-13 / E B Thomas | D-14 | D-15 | D-18 | D-4 | D-5 | D-6 | D-6/D-7 - simple, D flue | D-6/D-7 - simple, strt flue | D-7 | D-7 - simple, combustion chbr | D-9 | K / D-8 | M / D-10 | Q / D-9 | X / D-11 | |
| Locobase ID | 9315 | 359 | 9227 | 360 | 361 | 9226 | 9223 | 9217 | 9224 | 9225 | 9228 | 362 | 363 | 6695 | 6697 | 6696 | 9218 | 9219 | 9222 | 6014 | 9220 | 6016 | 9221 |
| Railroad | Erie (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie & Wyoming Valley (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) |
| Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
| Road Numbers | 409-419 | 461-466 | 499 | 469 | 329-330 | 26-27 / 103-104 / 114-115 | 385-386 | 331, 34-37, 43-56, 58-61, | 420-424 | 401-405 | 470-481 | 500-501 | |||||||||||
| Gauge | 6' | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | several | Erie | Erie | several | Erie | Erie | Cooke | Cooke | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | several | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | shops | shops | Burnham, Williams & Co | shops | Rogers | Erie | Erie | Rogers | Erie | |
| Year | 1855 | 1880 | 1881 | 1882 | 1879 | 1874 | 1899 | 1893 | 1897 | 1897 | 1887 | 1874 | 1896 | 1897 | 1897 | 1897 | 1897 | 1897 | 1888 | 1883 | 1887 | 1888 | 1896 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | |||
| Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 7.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | 8.50' | |||
| Engine Wheelbase | 23.04' | 22.96' | 22.92' | 22.29' | 22.25' | 23.62' | 23.56' | 22.92' | 23.33' | 21.67' | 22.92' | 23' | 23.33' | 23.33' | 22.83' | 22.83' | 23.46' | 23.46' | 25.46' | 23.46' | |||
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.38 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.35 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.33 | 0.36 | |||
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 46.37' | 46.21' | 45.92' | 45.29' | 45.75' | 51.63' | 49.69' | 47.25' | 47.67' | 46.42' | 47.25' | 47.67' | 47.67' | 47.67' | 48.37' | 46.79' | 48.92' | 48.79' | 49.83' | ||||
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | 26500 lbs | 29010 lbs | 28300 lbs | 26400 lbs | 26150 lbs | 44000 lbs | 51280 lbs | 42100 lbs | 43500 lbs | 37050 lbs | 38500 lbs | 39600 lbs | 42500 lbs | 42500 lbs | 44990 lbs | 44900 lbs | 33000 lbs | 36900 lbs | 40600 lbs | 32400 lbs | 50000 lbs | ||
| Weight on Drivers | 40100 lbs | 51500 lbs | 55760 lbs | 55400 lbs | 51300 lbs | 50150 lbs | 87325 lbs | 96060 lbs | 82600 lbs | 86000 lbs | 73050 lbs | 47350 lbs | 75000 lbs | 78000 lbs | 84300 lbs | 84300 lbs | 87330 lbs | 86500 lbs | 65400 lbs | 72600 lbs | 80400 lbs | 65400 lbs | 91000 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 66100 lbs | 80700 lbs | 85400 lbs | 84400 lbs | 79100 lbs | 80000 lbs | 135525 lbs | 136930 lbs | 129500 lbs | 128200 lbs | 104700 lbs | 74000 lbs | 111000 lbs | 121000 lbs | 125700 lbs | 125700 lbs | 125300 lbs | 125900 lbs | 106600 lbs | 103600 lbs | 117400 lbs | 106600 lbs | 135000 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 41500 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 116800 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 74000 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 87900 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 87900 lbs | |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 107600 lbs | 157700 lbs | 162400 lbs | 161400 lbs | 156100 lbs | 157000 lbs | 252325 lbs | 224830 lbs | 217400 lbs | 216100 lbs | 178700 lbs | 0 | 198900 lbs | 208900 lbs | 213600 lbs | 213600 lbs | 213200 lbs | 213800 lbs | 183600 lbs | 180600 lbs | 194400 lbs | 183600 lbs | 222900 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 6000 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 3600 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 4500 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 4500 gals | ||
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 8.9 tons | 8 tons | 8.9 tons | 8 tons | 8 tons | 12 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 5 tons | tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 9 tons | 8 tons | 8.9 tons | 8 tons | 8.9 tons | 9 tons | |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 33 lb rail | 43 lb rail | 46 lb rail | 46 lb rail | 43 lb rail | 42 lb rail | 73 lb rail | 80 lb rail | 69 lb rail | 72 lb rail | 61 lb rail | 39 lb rail | 63 lb rail | 65 lb rail | 70 lb rail | 70 lb rail | 73 lb rail | 72 lb rail | 55 lb rail | 61 lb rail | 67 lb rail | 55 lb rail | 76 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| Driver Diameter | 60" | 68" | 68" | 68" | 62" | 68" | 76" | 72" | 68" | 68" | 62" | 62" | 68" | 68" | 68" | 68" | 72" | 68" | 68" | 68" | 68" | 62" | 76" |
| Boiler Pressure | 130 psi | 130 psi | 140 psi | 130 psi | 130 psi | 140 psi | 180 psi | 160 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 140 psi | 130 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi | 150 psi | 140 psi | 145 psi | 150 psi | 180 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 17" x 24" | 18" x 22" | 18" x 24" | 18" x 22" | 18" x 22" | 17" x 24" | 18" x 26" | 19" x 26" | 17.5" x 24" | 17.5" x 22" | 18" x 24" | 17" x 24" | 17.5" x 22" | 12.5" x 22" | 17.5" x 22" | 17.5" x 22" | 12.5" x 22" | 17.5" x 22" | 18" x 24" | 18" x 22" | 19" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 19" x 24" |
| Tractive Effort | 12774 lbs | 11583 lbs | 13608 lbs | 11583 lbs | 12704 lbs | 12138 lbs | 16959 lbs | 17729 lbs | 16538 lbs | 15159 lbs | 14925 lbs | 12362 lbs | 15159 lbs | 11422 lbs | 15159 lbs | 15159 lbs | 10787 lbs | 15159 lbs | 14580 lbs | 12474 lbs | 15704 lbs | 15991 lbs | 17442 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 3.14 | 4.45 | 4.10 | 4.78 | 4.04 | 4.13 | 5.15 | 5.42 | 4.99 | 5.67 | 4.89 | 3.83 | 4.95 | 6.83 | 5.56 | 5.56 | 8.10 | 5.71 | 4.49 | 5.82 | 5.12 | 4.09 | 5.22 |
| Heating Ability | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| Firebox Area | 108 sq. ft | 105 sq. ft | 114.50 sq. ft | 111 sq. ft | 104 sq. ft | 140 sq. ft | 165 sq. ft | 125 sq. ft | 152 sq. ft | 146 sq. ft | 163 sq. ft | 163 sq. ft | 127 sq. ft | 128 sq. ft | 123 sq. ft | 153 sq. ft | 132 sq. ft | 158 sq. ft | 163 sq. ft | 132 sq. ft | 172 sq. ft | ||
| Grate Area | 10.38 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 16 sq. ft | 26 sq. ft | 26 sq. ft | 15 sq. ft | 27 sq. ft | 36 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 67.80 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 32 sq. ft | 40 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 37 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 1120 | 1109 | 1050 | 1060 | 933 | 1704 | 1842 | 1350 | 1392 | 1118 | 930 | 1458 | 1458 | 1320 | 1636 | 1325 | 1437 | 1463 | 1503 | 1644 | 1453 | 1762 | |
| Superheating Surface | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 0 | 1120 | 1109 | 1050 | 1060 | 933 | 1704 | 1842 | 1350 | 1392 | 1118 | 930 | 1458 | 1458 | 1320 | 1636 | 1325 | 1437 | 1463 | 1503 | 1644 | 1453 | 1762 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 172.85 | 156.89 | 162.05 | 163.59 | 147.98 | 222.52 | 215.89 | 202.06 | 227.28 | 158.16 | 147.50 | 238.06 | 466.59 | 215.53 | 267.12 | 424.03 | 234.63 | 206.97 | 231.96 | 208.74 | 205.56 | 223.72 | |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||||||||||||||||||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 1349 | 2210 | 2240 | 3380 | 3380 | 2100 | 4860 | 5760 | 12240 | 12240 | 9520 | 2210 | 12240 | 12240 | 12240 | 12204 | 12240 | 12240 | 2550 | 4480 | 5800 | 2550 | 6660 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 1349 | 2210 | 2240 | 3380 | 3380 | 2100 | 4860 | 5760 | 12240 | 12240 | 9520 | 2210 | 12240 | 12240 | 12240 | 12204 | 12240 | 12240 | 2550 | 4480 | 5800 | 2550 | 6660 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 0 | 14040 | 14700 | 14885 | 14430 | 14560 | 25200 | 26400 | 22500 | 27360 | 20440 | 0 | 29340 | 29340 | 22860 | 23040 | 22140 | 27540 | 19800 | 22120 | 23635 | 19800 | 30960 |
| Power L1 | 0 | 3775 | 3668 | 3689 | 3348 | 3657 | 7158 | 6002 | 6030 | 7168 | 3782 | 0 | 7571 | 5258 | 6512 | 7581 | 4751 | 7335 | 5106 | 5615 | 5131 | 4633 | 7591 |
| Power MT | 0 | 323.20 | 290.05 | 293.60 | 287.76 | 321.53 | 361.42 | 275.50 | 321.89 | 367.51 | 228.28 | 0 | 445.10 | 297.23 | 340.60 | 396.52 | 239.88 | 373.89 | 344.24 | 341.02 | 281.39 | 312.35 | 367.81 |
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