Spokane Falls & Northern / St Paul & Pacific / St Paul Minneapolis & Manitoba / Great Northern 4-4-0 "American" Type Locomotives

Class B-1 (Locobase 8860)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Probably the oldest locomotive on the GN when the 1916 book was compiled, the 240 served elsewhere first for at least a decade before coming into the GN fold. Locobase suspects that the boiler information dates from a later time when the original vessel was replaced by a new one.

Class B-11 (Locobase 8864)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection. See Locobase 7460 for a short history of the SF & N. Works numbers were 10830 and 10833.

One of the many classes of 4-4-0s that would come into the Great Northern from many sources. This pair started out on the SF & N, although one seems also to have operated on Canada's Victoria & Sydney Railway. Their service on the GN lasted less than 2 decades as both were sold to Northwest Steel Rolling Mills Co in May and June 1926, respectively.

Class B-16 (Locobase 8865)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

This quartet of Ocean Staters fell into the typical range for 4-4-0s of the early 1880s. Their service in the GN lasted into the early 1920s.

Class B-17 (Locobase 7454)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

A lone engine from this builder was left in 1929. Locobase believes it was built to the same specifications as the B-7 series (see Locobase 7453). Because it received a new boiler two years earlier that had tubes just slightly longer, it had a few square feet more heating surface, and consequently its own entry.

Class B-18 (Locobase 8866)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Compared to the Rhode Island engines produced for the St P, M & M in the same year, these Brooks engines (works #715-716) had larger boilers but smaller grates and fireboxes. These two were followed within 4 months by a more numerous class that had bigger fireboxes; see Locobase 8867.

Class B-19 (Locobase 8867)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection. Works numbers ran:

791-795 in October 1882, 829-833 in December 1882, and 872-882 & 885-888

It''s interesting to see the difference in a pair of prototypes (or possibly catalogue engines) delivered in June (Locobase 8866) and this well-populated class of Eight-wheelers that followed 4 months later. They're heavier, they have bigger fireboxes, and the wheelbase has spread out.

Class B-20 (Locobase 7455)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

When Rhode Island Locomotive Works contributed to the batch of Eight-wheelers being procured by the GN in the early 1880s, it supplied a design with 1" larger cylinders and slightly longer boiler tubes.

The class was reboilered in 1916-1917 and 1923 according to the diagram, which also notes that although the new boiler could handle 165 psi, the reciprocating parts were designed for 140 psi. Hence the working pressure remained 140 psi.

Class B-21 (Locobase 8868)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The design for this clutch of Eight-wheelers had a few unusual features. The steam and sand domes stood forward of the firebox (and the bell mounted on the crown) and the drivers were widely spaced to accept the relatively large firebox.

Class B-22 (Locobase 7456)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The largest batch of Eight-wheelers to retain their original boilers in 1929 was this set of Rogers-built engines. The boilers shown in the diagram may well represent the original dimensions of most of the 1880s GN 4-4-0s, although the grate was a little larger and shallower. See Locobase 7457 for a slightly larger design from the same builder.

Class B-22 (Locobase 7457)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Locobase 7456 describes a relatively large class of Eight-wheelers delivered by Rogers in 1887. This quintet came two years later and had boilers with more tubes and a firebox with a larger grate. Like the other B-22s, these never were fitted with new boilers.

Class B-3 (Locobase 8861)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

These engines were early servants of this Minnesota railroad, which later came under James J Hill's direction and was renamed the St Paul, Minneapolis & Manitoba and still later the Great Northern. This design preceded both the Rogers engines of 1876 (Locobase 8863) and the 1879 Baldwins (Locobase 8862). After 1906, however, all had the same power dimensions and boiler.

Class B-4 (Locobase 8862)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

When James J Hill took over the St Paul & Pacific in 1879, almost the first locomotives affected were the 4 that Baldwin was building in that same year. Produced in pairs (works #4848-4849, 4852-4853), the 4 engines remained in service on the StP, M & M and subsequently the Great Northern (which the St P, M & M was renamed in 1889) for years. 251 was retired in 1901, but the other three received new boilers in 1906. The specs refer to the new boiler. This trio lasted until 1926.

Class B-5 (Locobase 8863)

Data from GN 1916 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

These engines predated the Baldwins (Locobase 8862), but came after the Pittsburghs (Locobase 8861). After 1906, however, all had the same power dimensions and boiler.

Class B-6 (Locobase 7452)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Locobase only has the diagrams to go by and there are two: one for 232 & 237, the other for 233-236. The latter had slightly shorter tubes (by 1 1/2") and a 2" narrower grate.

Class B-7-10/12-15/19 (Locobase 7453)

Data from GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Locobase suspects that there may have been more pronounced differences among these classes when they were first delivered. But the diagram shows that all of them received new boilers in 1908 and Locobase suspects they were all the same design. Adhesion and engine weights differed to a degree as did tender capacities and weights. But all had the same power dimensions (cylinder, driver diameter, boiler pressure).

Several builders contributed to the classes:

B-7 New York Locomotive (Rome, NY)- 1880 - 1 locomotives left in 1916, 1 by 1929.

B-8/9 Pittsburgh Locomotive Works - 1880 - 8 in 1929 (3 more scrapped)

B-10 Burnham, Williams (Baldwin) - 1880 - 6 in 1916

B-12 Rogers - 1882 - 1 in 1916.

B-13/14 Burnham, Williams (Baldwin) - 1882 - 2 in 1929

B-15 Schenectady - 1882 - 3 left in 1929 (2 of these had 64" drivers).

B-19 Brooks (Dunkirk, NY) - 7 left in 1929.

Class Wiliam Crooks (Locobase 5945)

The very first locomotive to run in the state of Minnesota, the William Crooks pulled a ceremonial train between St Paul and St Anthony (later Minneapolis) on 28 June 1862.

As displayed in the Lake Superior Railroad Museum, the engine has three domes (the middle one carrying sand), cabbage stack, outside cylinders and inside valve gear. It is said to have been preserved at the express request of James J Hill.

A locomotive diagram reproduced on Ben Ringnalda's http://www.greatnorthernempire.net/GNEGNSteamRosterO1_4.htm (visited 8 Jan 2005) gives surfaces and other data that show just how small this pioneer was. A diagram found in the GN 1 - 1929 Locomotive Diagrams book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection shows some slightly different measurements (12.5 sq ft for the grate area, e.g.); almost al agree with the diagram on Ringnalda's site.

Specifications
ClassB-1B-11B-16B-17B-18B-19B-20B-21B-22B-22B-3B-4B-5B-6B-7-10/12-15/19Wiliam Crooks
Locobase ID8860886488657454886688677455886874567457886188628863745274535945
RailroadGreat Northern (GN)Spokane Falls & Northern (GN)Great Northern (GN)Great Northern (GN)St Paul Minneapolis & Manitoba (GN)St Paul Minneapolis & Manitoba (GN)Great Northern (GN)St Paul Minneapolis & Manitoba (GN)Great Northern (GN)Great Northern (GN)St Paul & Pacific (GN)St Paul Minneapolis & Manitoba (GN)St Paul & Pacific (GN)Great Northern (GN)Great Northern (GN)Great Northern (GN)
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Road Numbers2405-6 / 141-142135-138147150-151162-186197, 199, 204,206207-225207-225226-230241-249249-252265-266232-237125-26, 130-321
GaugeStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStd
BuilderDanforth, CookeBurnham, Williams & CoRhode IslandGrantBrooksBrooksRhode IslandRogersRogersRogersPittsburghBurnham, Parry, Williams & CoRogersRogersseveralSmith & Jackson
Year1866189018821882188218821883188718871889187218791876189019081861
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase 7.58' 8.50' 8.50'8'8' 8.50' 8.50'9'9'9'8' 8.08' 7.75' 8.50' 8.33'7'
Engine Wheelbase21.33'22.75'22.75'21.87'22.58'23.33'23.25'23.25'23.25'23.12'21.87'20.92'21.17'25.04'24.46'19.92'
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase 0.36 0.37 0.37 0.37 0.35 0.36 0.37 0.39 0.39 0.39 0.37 0.39 0.37 0.34 0.34 0.35
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender)43.42'45'45.75'43.83'42.83'45'46.35'46.83'46.83'46.02'43.04'42.17'42.98'45.79'44.25'40.60'
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle)20925 lbs26000 lbs22825 lbs21825 lbs23250 lbs26250 lbs29500 lbs30150 lbs30150 lbs30150 lbs21800 lbs22275 lbs20800 lbs28000 lbs24600 lbs17975 lbs
Weight on Drivers41850 lbs52000 lbs55650 lbs43650 lbs46500 lbs52500 lbs59000 lbs60300 lbs60300 lbs60300 lbs43700 lbs44550 lbs41600 lbs56000 lbs49200 lbs35950 lbs
Engine Weight66000 lbs85000 lbs86500 lbs70000 lbs71400 lbs83200 lbs90900 lbs94100 lbs94100 lbs94100 lbs66100 lbs70000 lbs66170 lbs89000 lbs74800 lbs55400 lbs
Tender Light Weight70000 lbs71500 lbs62000 lbs64000 lbs62800 lbs58300 lbs78000 lbs68000 lbs68000 lbs68000 lbs63000 lbs70700 lbs70800 lbs75000 lbs66600 lbs46800 lbs
Total Engine and Tender Weight136000 lbs156500 lbs148500 lbs134000 lbs134200 lbs141500 lbs168900 lbs162100 lbs162100 lbs162100 lbs129100 lbs140700 lbs136970 lbs164000 lbs141400 lbs102200 lbs
Tender Water Capacity3000 gals2700 gals2600 gals2550 gals2850 gals3000 gals3000 gals3000 gals3000 gals3000 gals2800 gals2800 gals2500 gals3000 gals2600 gals2500 gals
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal)8 tons9 tons8 tons6 tons9 tons9 tons8 tons5 tons5 tons5 tons7 tons8.5 tons6 tons8 tons8 tons5 tons
Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run35 lb rail43 lb rail46 lb rail36 lb rail39 lb rail44 lb rail49 lb rail50 lb rail50 lb rail50 lb rail36 lb rail37 lb rail35 lb rail47 lb rail41 lb rail30 lb rail
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"63"
Boiler Pressure140 psi145 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi150 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi140 psi110 psi
Cylinders (dia x stroke)16" x 24"17" x 24"17" x 24"17" x 24"17" x 24"17" x 24"18" x 24"18" x 24"18" x 24"18" x 24"16" x 24"16" x 24"16" x 24"17" x 24"17" x 24"12" x 22"
Tractive Effort11605 lbs13569 lbs13101 lbs13101 lbs13101 lbs13101 lbs14688 lbs15737 lbs14688 lbs14688 lbs11605 lbs11605 lbs11605 lbs13101 lbs13101 lbs4702 lbs
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 3.61 3.83 4.25 3.33 3.55 4.01 4.02 3.83 4.11 4.11 3.77 3.84 3.58 4.27 3.76 7.65
Heating Ability
Firebox Area87 sq. ft112.70 sq. ft107.80 sq. ft124.60 sq. ft97.90 sq. ft107 sq. ft124.60 sq. ft126.40 sq. ft126.40 sq. ft126.40 sq. ft102.90 sq. ft102.90 sq. ft102.90 sq. ft128 sq. ft124.60 sq. ft65.40 sq. ft
Grate Area13.69 sq. ft16.71 sq. ft17.80 sq. ft16.20 sq. ft15.10 sq. ft16.80 sq. ft16.20 sq. ft18.71 sq. ft18.71 sq. ft19.04 sq. ft14.95 sq. ft14.95 sq. ft14.95 sq. ft16.40 sq. ft16.20 sq. ft12.50 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface94713591032140410941151145212781187130310611061106112701396489
Superheating Surface
Combined Heating Surface94713591032140410941151145212781187130310611061106112701396489
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume169.56215.54163.68222.68173.51182.55205.42180.80167.93184.34189.97189.97189.97201.43221.41169.80
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation1917242324922268211423522268280726192666209320932093229622681375
Same as above plus superheater percentage1917242324922268211423522268280726192666209320932093229622681375
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area1218016342150921744413706149801744418960176961769614406144061440617920174447194
Power L13637464236634726369239314315425637834024414741474147445347073273
Power MT383.19393.61290.23477.39350.08330.15322.47311.21276.62294.24418.42410.44439.55350.61421.84401.43

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Introduction and specifications provided by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media.