As Strapac notes, these Eight-wheelers fell on the small side of contemporary 4-4-0 designs. As traffic demands grew on the StL, A & T (as on all other railroads in the late 1890s), these little engines were outmatched by the trains now required. Retirements began at that time with a big reduction in 1911. By 1914, only 9 of both the A1 and B1 classes combined remained. Two went to Jonesboro, Lake City & Eastern.
Strapac explains that these locomotives were originally delivered to operate on the 6-foot gauge of the Erie system. Some were built by the New Jersey-based Atlantic & Great Western itself, others by Rogers. In 1879, the New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio reduced the gauge to standard and modified the locomotives accordingly. When the Saint Louis-Southwestern converted from 3' gauge to standard in 1886, the Erie made 25 of these locomotives available for a pittance.
As it turned out, the clapped-out Eries weren't worth much more than that and the StL-SW undertook a rebuild:"...the bell was jacked up and a new locomotive slid underneath; virtually nothing was left that could be called original. In fact, three were converted to cross-compounds."
The dozen locomotives rebuilt in 1894-1899 proved useful branchline engines for another 3 decades. Two were scrapped in 1909, while the rest left in the late 1920s. Five were scrapped in 1927, 1 in 1928, 1 in 1929, and the last in 1933.
Data from StL&SW 1 - 1932 Folio 725 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.
The first 7 of these Eight-wheelers came from Rogers' Paterson, NY works in 1900. Pittsburgh added 4 more in May 1901 (works #2253-2257), and Rogers, now formally part of the Alco combine, supplied the remainder in 1903. Most used Stephenson link motion for the slide valves, but at least 3 were retrofitted with Walschaert gear.
One of the class -- #40 -- later substituted one thermic syphon for the 15 sq ft of arch tubes in the original firebox. The subtraction and addition netted 18 sq ft in the firebox, but only 7 sq ft overall, so the tradeoff may have been seen as not worth the effort.
The class was retired over a long period, 17 years being required to withdraw all 18 engines.
Data from StL&SW 1 - 1932 Folio 725 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection. Works numbers were 29505, 29517, 29545, 29557, 29566 in November 1906.
Entering service 3 years after the Alco bunch (Locobase 8463), this set of Baldwins were larger and had longer boilers (although fewer tubes). They also were coal-fired.
They were all retired in 1933 (58-59, 61 in March, 62 in April, and 60 in May).
| Specifications | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | A1 | B2 | C2 | D1 |
| Locobase ID | 8200 | 8431 | 8462 | 8463 |
| Railroad | St Louis, Arkansas & Texas (StLSW) | Cotton Belt (StLSW) | Cotton Belt (StLSW) | Cotton Belt (StLSW) |
| Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
| Road Numbers | 100-114 | 148-168 | 40-57 | 58-62 |
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | Dickson | Pine Bluff | Alco | Burnham, Williams & Co |
| Year | 1886 | 1894 | 1900 | 1906 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
| Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 8' | 8' | 7.50' | 8.50' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 22' | 22' | 22' | 23.75' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.36 | 0.36 | 0.34 | 0.36 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 53.54' | 52.73' | 53.17' | |
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | 46500 lbs | 50500 lbs | ||
| Weight on Drivers | 57400 lbs | 69000 lbs | 93000 lbs | 101000 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 91000 lbs | 108000 lbs | 138000 lbs | 156000 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 83700 lbs | 94800 lbs | 140000 lbs | 142000 lbs |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 174700 lbs | 202800 lbs | 278000 lbs | 298000 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 3200 gals | 4000 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals |
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 10 tons | 10 tons | 2900 gals | 14 tons |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 48 lb rail | 58 lb rail | 78 lb rail | 84 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||
| Driver Diameter | 63" | 67" | 69" | 69" |
| Boiler Pressure | 115 psi | 160 psi | 200 psi | 200 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 16" x 24" | 17" x 24" | 18" x 26" | 19" x 26" |
| Tractive Effort | 9533 lbs | 14079 lbs | 20755 lbs | 23125 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 6.02 | 4.90 | 4.48 | 4.37 |
| Heating Ability | ||||
| Firebox Area | 107.50 sq. ft | 120 sq. ft | 184 sq. ft | 184 sq. ft |
| Grate Area | 15.60 sq. ft | 15.10 sq. ft | 24.90 sq. ft | 28.90 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 1050 | 1264 | 1778 | 1881 |
| Superheating Surface | ||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 1050 | 1264 | 1778 | 1881 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 188.00 | 200.48 | 232.19 | 220.46 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 1794 | 2416 | 4980 | 5780 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 1794 | 2416 | 4980 | 5780 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 12363 | 19200 | 36800 | 36800 |
| Power L1 | 3432 | 5282 | 8104 | 7551 |
| Power MT | 263.63 | 337.53 | 384.22 | 329.65 |
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