Twenty-nine Camelback Vauclain compounds delivered with two 13" HP and two 22" LP cylinders. They were shortly (1904-1906) converted to single-expansion engines.
Retired in 1927-1928.
Data from Erie's 1928 Locomotive Diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.
These engines were originally built as Vauclain compounds with 15-in high-pressure and 25-in low pressure pistons. They were later rebuilt as simple-expansion engines; they're shown in that configuration in Locobase 386.
Data from Erie's 1928 Locomotive Diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.
Large Atlantics of which only these 2 Baldwins and a similar Alco were built, probably because interest was turning to a 4-6-2 arrangement for passenger power. Later converted to simple expansion with 2 22 1/2" -diameter cylinders and 74 1/2" drivers, which matched the lone Alco.
This set of relatively long Atlantics was simpled, then superheated at the Hornell Shops with what may have been a standard kit. As with the later E-5 makeover (Locobase 9238), the E-4s didn't sacrifice much in the way of heating surface area. The 12" piston valves, Baker valve gear, and superheat enlivened the design and the two locomotives lasted into the late 1940s.
Although a significant increase in Atlantic engine power, these 2 classes were the last of this wheel arrangement to be built for the Erie. They were later converted to 2-cylinder simples -- 22 1/2" x 26" turning 74 1/2" drivers.
For not a lot of increase in weight, the Erie's newest Atlantic was rebuilt at the Hornell Shops. At first it was simpled (although Locobase can't say for sure when) then superheated. Unlike many upgrades, the loss in overall heating surface area was not substantial and its boiler pressure remained set at 200 PSI. 25 sq ft of the firebox heating surface came in the form of 4 arch tubes.
| Specifications | ||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | E-1 | E-2 | E-3 - compound | E-3 - simple | E-4 | E-4 - superheated | E-5 | E-5 - superheated |
| Locobase ID | 426 | 387 | 9481 | 386 | 388 | 9239 | 389 | 9238 |
| Railroad | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) | Erie (ERR) |
| Whyte | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 | 4-4-2 |
| Road Numbers | 502-527, 532-534 | 934-943 | 545-559 | 545-559 | 535-536 | 535-536 | 537 | 537 |
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | Erie | Alco-Schenectady | Erie |
| Year | 1899 | 1902 | 1903 | 1903 | 1905 | 1917 | 1905 | 1919 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Walschaert | Baker | Stephenson | Stephenson | ||
| Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 6.58' | 6.58' | 6.58' | 6.58' | 7' | 7' | 7' | 7' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 24.75' | 26.25' | 26.25' | 26.25' | 30.08' | 30.17' | 28.75' | 28.67' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.27 | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.25 | 0.23 | 0.23 | 0.24 | 0.24 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 52.79' | 53.92' | 52.17' | 55.17' | 59.87' | 57.62' | 60.75' | 57.08' |
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | 41800 lbs | 42000 lbs | 49400 lbs | 49400 lbs | 61400 lbs | 53955 lbs | 57550 lbs | 56500 lbs |
| Weight on Drivers | 75800 lbs | 80800 lbs | 88000 lbs | 92300 lbs | 115500 lbs | 105280 lbs | 115000 lbs | 110050 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 155100 lbs | 169500 lbs | 180000 lbs | 178800 lbs | 204200 lbs | 201000 lbs | 206000 lbs | 204200 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 116800 lbs | 137000 lbs | 130000 lbs | 137000 lbs | 155000 lbs | 137000 lbs | 162800 lbs | 137000 lbs |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 271900 lbs | 306500 lbs | 310000 lbs | 315800 lbs | 359200 lbs | 338000 lbs | 368800 lbs | 341200 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 6000 gals | 6800 gals | 6800 gals | 6800 gals | 8500 gals | 6800 gals | 8500 gals | 6800 gals |
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 12 tons | 14 tons | 14 tons | 14 tons | 12 tons | 14 tons | 16 tons | 14 tons |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 63 lb rail | 67 lb rail | 73 lb rail | 77 lb rail | 96 lb rail | 88 lb rail | 96 lb rail | 92 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||||||
| Driver Diameter | 76" | 76" | 76" | 76" | 72" | 68" | 78" | 68" |
| Boiler Pressure | 200 psi | 210 psi | 200 psi | 200 psi | 225 psi | 200 psi | 220 psi | 200 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 18" x 26" | 19" x 28" | 15" x 28" | 19" x 28" | 16" x 26" | 22.5" x 26" | 15.5" x 26" | 22.5" x 25" |
| Tractive Effort | 18843 lbs | 23741 lbs | 20724 lbs | 22610 lbs | 26170 lbs | 32906 lbs | 22098 lbs | 31641 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.02 | 3.40 | 4.25 | 4.08 | 4.41 | 3.20 | 5.20 | 3.48 |
| Heating Ability | ||||||||
| Firebox Area | 160 sq. ft | 201 sq. ft | 172 sq. ft | 177 sq. ft | 207 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft | 181.10 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft |
| Grate Area | 64 sq. ft | 76 sq. ft | 46.90 sq. ft | 46.90 sq. ft | 54 sq. ft | 54 sq. ft | 56.50 sq. ft | 56.40 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 2331 | 2637 | 2811 | 2536 | 3639 | 2759 | 3632 | 2709 |
| Superheating Surface | 599 | 564 | ||||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 2331 | 2637 | 2811 | 2536 | 3639 | 3358 | 3632 | 3273 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 304.40 | 286.99 | 490.84 | 276.00 | 601.44 | 230.59 | 639.64 | 235.47 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 12800 | 15960 | 9380 | 9380 | 12150 | 10800 | 12430 | 11280 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 12800 | 15960 | 9380 | 9380 | 12150 | 12960 | 12430 | 13536 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 32000 | 42210 | 34400 | 35400 | 46575 | 49440 | 39842 | 49440 |
| Power L1 | 10358 | 10543 | 5846 | 9432 | 7324 | 17391 | 8122 | 17367 |
| Power MT | 602.52 | 575.33 | 292.91 | 450.57 | 279.60 | 728.35 | 311.41 | 695.82 |
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