Builder info from B.Rumary, 25 Kingscombe, Gurney Slade, Radstock, BA3 4TH, ENGLAND and Jeremy Lambert as supplied by Allen Stanley in March 2004. Works #2269 manufactured in April 1893 and shown at the Chicago World's Fair.
Tandem compound Consolidation that had less heating area than the Brooks Mogul delivered a couple of years later. It had an Improved Belpaire boiler.
Manufactured beginning in June 1892, the batches included works #2093-2116 (road #450-473, renumbered 516-539 in 1899), 2133-2157 (474-499, 540-565) in August-September 1892, and 2187-2201 (500-514) in November-December 1892.
In the same year that Brooks was delivering several dozen Consolidations to the GN (Locobase 2616), Baldwin supplied 5 tandem compounds of their own. These were bigger and had much larger grates in their Belpaire fireboxes. The difference came from a wide firebox that rode above the drivers.
As with the Brooks engines, this quintet was soon simpled - see Locobase 8826.
Delivered right at the turn of the century, these Consolidations were typical of the breed. Locobase isn't sure, but suspects that they arrived as compounds and were later simpled. Note the usual Belpaire firebox, this time as part of a design that featured a long stroke.
Like many of the GN's earlier 2-8-0s, most were never superheated. Those that were appear in Locobase 8826.
1901 saw the Great Northern purchase several classes of Consolidations from several builders. They shared many things: all came from manufacturers that would soon be gathered under the American Locomotive Company banner, all had Belpaire boilers, all had 55" drivers. Rogers' F-5 engines are shown in Locobase 8825 and the superheated F-6s originally supplied by Brooks appear in Locobase 8830.
These Cookes had 10 fewer boiler tubes than did the Rogers F-5s, but otherwise were quite similar. They were later superheated, the result of which is shown in Locobase 8831.
These long-stroke, Belpaire-boilered Consolidations continued the line of such 2-8-0s that began with the Rogers F-5 engines.
This class combined the basic power dimensions of Brooks's F-6 Consolidations (Locobase 8849) with a bigger grate in its Belpaire firebox. Most were superheated not long after they entered service; see Locobase 8851.
Locobase 2616 describes the original tandem-compound layout of this large class of Consolidations. Not long after it entered service, however, the railroad changed the class over to simple expansion. The dimensions are slightly different, but that's likely more because the railroad was measuring rather than Brooks. The essential details of a Belpaire firebox, small drivers, and large tubes remained the same. For a time, the boilers were pressed to 160 psi, but working pressure later rose to 185 psi as shown in the specs.
A very few were superheated; see Locobase 8824.
Taking the basic simple-expansion F-1 rebuild described in Locobase 8823, the GN later superheated a few. Two had the layout shown in the specs, in which the 22 flues measured 5 1/2" in diameter; another had 5" flues, which held smaller elements and resulted in a 8-sq ft drop in superheater area. Other than the usual tradoff of tubes for flues and a reduction in boiler pressure to 150 psi, a level more usually seen in the 1880s, the Belpaire-boilered F-1s were essentially the same.
The GN eventually reset the working pressure to 175 psi.
The design is certainly foreign to the GN, having a round-topped boiler and small dimensions.
Other than taking off the two LP cylinders and enlarging the HP cylinders to 19", the GN made very few changes on these 5 Consolidations. The signature Belpaire firebox mated to a wide grate and an overall stubby look remained a part of the profile.
Four of the 5 were scrapped in June 1928; 596 didn't join them at the ferro-knacker's until September 1929.
This single Consolidation was owned by the Spokane Falls & Northern, but operated on the C & RM. The C & RM was a gold-mine creation in 1895 that ascended the Paterson valley in Stevens County from Northport to Rossland to exploit the Red Mountain gold strikes in northeastern Washington State. Not long afterward, the Great Northern bought the CR & M and renumbered the 9 as their 1094.
Superheating the F-5s, first delivered in 1901 and shown in Locobase 8827, meant retaining the Belpaire firebox, but subtracting several dozen tubes to accommodate the odd-sized flues. It was apparently usual GN practice (but much less common elsewhere) to increase the cylinder diameter substantially at the same time; they were served by 12" piston valves.
At the time of the upgrade, the working boiler pressure was lowered to 175 psi, but it was later restored to 210 psi. When that occurred, the GN had a powerful little 2-8-0 indeed.
These Brooks machines were delivered in the same year as the F-5 came from Rogers (Locobase 8825) and the F-7s from Cooke (Locobase 8830). Like all Great Northern engines of the day, were fitted with a relatively narrow Belpaire firebox. They were superheated with one of two different designs; the GN's own installation yielded 444 sq ft compared the H & D equipment shown in the specs.
All of the class was converted to an 0-8-0 switcher layout.
When the Great Northern superheated this set of Cooke-built Consolidations, they used the same layout as the F-5 superheating project described in Locobase 8828. At that point, the only difference was a lower adhesion weight in these F-7-S locomotives. Part of the upgrade consisted of dropping the working pressure to 165 psi. Unlike other 2-8-0 engines, however, these do not appear to have the original, higher working pressure restored later on.
Some were superheated in the 1920s. According to Larry Bohn (http://www.prostar.com/web/gngoat/gn27011.htm), the engine in his photograph #1230 was completed by Baldwin in November 1907 and scrapped in 1954.
All had 30 5" flues, but the surface area varied on the type of superheater, ranging from 448 sq ft as shown to 475 sq ft to 505 sq ft. Some had arch tubes totalling 30 sq ft as part of the firebox heating surface, which increased the total to 225 sq ft.
The small tube counts shown in the 12 survivors on Ringnalda's duplicated diagram show as follows:
Tubes Area
189 2,012
203 2,158
205 2,173
217 2,226
236 2,371
237 2,379
When superheating was applied to this class's boilers, the railroad took the unusual step of greatly increasing the cylinder volume. The boiler's total heating surface remained approximately the same as did the grate in the Belpaire firebox.
It was too much of a good thing, most likely, given how little boiler there was for every cubic inch of cylinder. By the late 1920s, the GN had converted the whole class to C-3-S 0-8-0 switchers. Some had 21" cylinders, others 23 1/2".
| Specifications | |||||||||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | 39 / F-1 | 40 / F-2 - compound | 50 / F-5 | 50A / F-7 | 50B / F-6 | 51B / F-9 | F-1 - simpled | F-1-S | F-11 | F-2 - simpled | F-4 | F-5-S | F-6-S | F-7-S | F-8 (cross-compound) | F-8 (simple) | F-8 (wide firebox) | F-8 - superheater | F-9-S |
| Locobase ID | 2616 | 8826 | 8825 | 8830 | 8849 | 8850 | 8823 | 8824 | 8832 | 8827 | 8848 | 8828 | 8829 | 8831 | 4129 | 2801 | 4128 | 6451 | 8851 |
| Railroad | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Washington & Spokane Falls (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Columbia & Red Mountain (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) | Great Northern (GN) |
| Whyte | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 |
| Road Numbers | 500-565 | 500-504 / 550-554 / 595-599 | 1095-1109 | 1130-1139 | 1110-1129 | 1300-1324 | 500-565 | 508, 511, 544-546 | 14-15 / 590-591 | 500-504 / 595-599 | 9 | 1100-1104 | 1110-1129 | 1130-1133, 1136, 1138 | 1140-1253 | 1307+ | |||
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | Brooks | Burnham, Williams & Co | Rogers | Cooke | Alco-Brooks | Alco-Brooks | Brooks | GN | Alco | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | GN | Alco-Brooks | GN | Rogers | several | Rogers | shops | GN |
| Year | 1892 | 1892 | 1901 | 1901 | 1901 | 1903 | 1892 | 1913 | 1912 | 1910 | 1896 | 1913 | 1913 | 1913 | 1901 | 1901 | 1901 | 1921 | 1913 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Walschaert | Walschaert | Walschaert | Walschaert | Stephenson |
| Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||||||||||||||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 15.50' | 15.50' | 15.50' | 16' | 16' | 16' | 15.50' | 15.50' | 14.83' | 15.50' | 12.42' | 15.50' | 16' | 16' | 16' | 16' | 16' | 16' | 16' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 23' | 23.33' | 23.33' | 24.25' | 24.75' | 25.17' | 23' | 23' | 22.67' | 23.33' | 20.08' | 23.33' | 24.75' | 24.25' | 24.25' | 24.25' | 24.25' | 24.25' | 25.25' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.67 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.65 | 0.64 | 0.67 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.66 | 0.62 | 0.66 | 0.65 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.63 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 50' | 50.71' | 50.71' | 55.92' | 53.92' | 57.50' | 50.17' | 50.17' | 49.58' | 50.71' | 45.08' | 50.71' | 55.92' | 55.92' | 58' | 58' | 58' | 60.06' | 57.50' |
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | 32500 lbs | 44750 lbs | 43500 lbs | 44525 lbs | 45000 lbs | 30000 lbs | 30000 lbs | 30750 lbs | 32500 lbs | 28525 lbs | 44750 lbs | 44525 lbs | 43500 lbs | 48000 lbs | 45000 lbs | ||||
| Weight on Drivers | 130000 lbs | 130000 lbs | 179000 lbs | 174000 lbs | 178100 lbs | 180000 lbs | 120000 lbs | 120000 lbs | 123000 lbs | 130000 lbs | 113300 lbs | 179000 lbs | 178100 lbs | 174000 lbs | 174000 lbs | 172000 lbs | 172000 lbs | 192000 lbs | 180000 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 147000 lbs | 145000 lbs | 194000 lbs | 194000 lbs | 195500 lbs | 196000 lbs | 136000 lbs | 136000 lbs | 138000 lbs | 145000 lbs | 135000 lbs | 194000 lbs | 195500 lbs | 194000 lbs | 195000 lbs | 192000 lbs | 192000 lbs | 207680 lbs | 196000 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 85000 lbs | 86000 lbs | 137000 lbs | 131000 lbs | 125400 lbs | 123000 lbs | 86000 lbs | 86000 lbs | 100000 lbs | 86000 lbs | 82000 lbs | 137000 lbs | 137000 lbs | 131000 lbs | 168000 lbs | 123000 lbs | |||
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 232000 lbs | 231000 lbs | 331000 lbs | 325000 lbs | 320900 lbs | 319000 lbs | 222000 lbs | 222000 lbs | 238000 lbs | 231000 lbs | 217000 lbs | 331000 lbs | 332500 lbs | 325000 lbs | 0 | 0 | 0 | 375680 lbs | 319000 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 4000 gals | 4000 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals | 4000 gals | 4000 gals | 5000 gals | 4000 gals | 3400 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals | 6000 gals | 8000 gals | 6000 gals | |||
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 8 tons | 8 tons | 4000 gals | 14 tons | 12 tons | 12 tons | 8 tons | 8 tons | 9 tons | 8 tons | 10 tons | 4000 gals | 14 tons | 14 tons | tons | tons | tons | 4500 gals | 12 tons |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 54 lb rail | 54 lb rail | 75 lb rail | 73 lb rail | 74 lb rail | 75 lb rail | 50 lb rail | 50 lb rail | 51.25 lb rail | 54 lb rail | 47.21 lb rail | 74.58 lb rail | 74.21 lb rail | 72.50 lb rail | 72.50 lb rail | 71.67 lb rail | 71.67 lb rail | 80 lb rail | 75 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||||||||||||||||
| Driver Diameter | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 52" | 55" | 47" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" | 55" |
| Boiler Pressure | 180 psi | 160 psi | 210 psi | 210 psi | 210 psi | 210 psi | 185 psi | 175 psi | 180 psi | 160 psi | 180 psi | 210 psi | 165 psi | 165 psi | 210 psi | 210 psi | 210 psi | 180 psi | 180 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 13" x 26" | 13" x 26" | 20" x 32" | 20" x 32" | 20" x 32" | 20" x 32" | 19" x 26" | 22" x 26" | 20" x 24" | 19" x 26" | 19" x 24" | 23.5" x 32" | 23.5" x 32" | 23.5" x 32" | 22" x 32" (1) | 20" x 32" | 20" x 32" | 23.5" x 32" | 26" x 32" |
| Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 22" x 26" | 22" x 26" | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " | 33" x 32" | " x " | " x " | " x " | " x " |
| Tractive Effort | 18120 lbs | 16106 lbs | 41542 lbs | 41542 lbs | 41542 lbs | 41542 lbs | 26835 lbs | 34034 lbs | 28246 lbs | 23209 lbs | 28204 lbs | 57354 lbs | 45064 lbs | 45064 lbs | 34799 lbs | 41542 lbs | 41542 lbs | 49160 lbs | 60176 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 7.17 | 8.07 | 4.31 | 4.19 | 4.29 | 4.33 | 4.47 | 3.53 | 4.35 | 5.60 | 4.02 | 3.12 | 3.95 | 3.86 | 5.00 | 4.14 | 4.14 | 3.91 | 2.99 |
| Heating Ability | |||||||||||||||||||
| Firebox Area | 177 sq. ft | 193 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft | 198.60 sq. ft | 217.30 sq. ft | 176 sq. ft | 176 sq. ft | 148 sq. ft | 193 sq. ft | 171.25 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft | 198.60 sq. ft | 206 sq. ft | 212 sq. ft | 212 sq. ft | 200 sq. ft | 195 sq. ft | 217.30 sq. ft |
| Grate Area | 25.30 sq. ft | 53.90 sq. ft | 35.66 sq. ft | 35.66 sq. ft | 38.94 sq. ft | 57.50 sq. ft | 24.60 sq. ft | 24.60 sq. ft | 31.40 sq. ft | 53.90 sq. ft | 24 sq. ft | 35.66 sq. ft | 34.94 sq. ft | 35.66 sq. ft | 35.30 sq. ft | 35.30 sq. ft | 59 sq. ft | 59 sq. ft | 57.50 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 1596 | 2033 | 2795 | 2717 | 2828 | 2816 | 1586 | 1291 | 1807 | 2033 | 1844 | 2261 | 2554 | 2261 | 2712 | 2712 | 2700 | 2421 | 2526 |
| Superheating Surface | 270 | 505 | 475 | 505 | 448 | 500 | |||||||||||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 1596 | 2033 | 2795 | 2717 | 2828 | 2816 | 1586 | 1561 | 1807 | 2033 | 1844 | 2766 | 3029 | 2766 | 2712 | 2712 | 2700 | 2869 | 3026 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 399.57 | 508.98 | 240.21 | 233.51 | 243.05 | 242.02 | 185.89 | 112.86 | 207.07 | 238.28 | 234.13 | 140.75 | 158.99 | 140.75 | 385.25 | 233.08 | 232.05 | 150.71 | 128.46 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||||||||||||||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 4554 | 8624 | 7489 | 7489 | 8177 | 12075 | 4551 | 4305 | 5652 | 8624 | 4320 | 7488.60 | 5765.10 | 5883.90 | 7413 | 7413 | 12390 | 10620 | 10350 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 4554 | 8624 | 7489 | 7489 | 8177 | 12075 | 4551 | 5049.62 | 5652 | 8624 | 4320 | 8855.82 | 6669.17 | 6958.15 | 7413 | 7413 | 12390 | 12278.33 | 12060.18 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 31860 | 30880 | 43260 | 43260 | 41706 | 45633 | 32560 | 36127.35 | 26640 | 30880 | 30825 | 51158.16 | 37907.75 | 40195.69 | 44520 | 44520 | 42000 | 40580.93 | 45576.99 |
| Power L1 | 3579 | 3844 | 6328 | 6199 | 6322 | 6456 | 4901 | 6452.19 | 4553.09 | 5154 | 4834.24 | 9389.95 | 7364.64 | 7377.82 | 4584.36 | 6240.46 | 6121.34 | 7629.46 | 6807.16 |
| Power MT | 242.78 | 260.76 | 311.75 | 314.17 | 313.03 | 316.29 | 360.16 | 474.15 | 326.43 | 349.62 | 376.26 | 462.60 | 364.65 | 373.91 | 232.34 | 319.95 | 313.84 | 350.42 | 333.49 |
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