After further testing, the Pennsy decided to place the 2-coupled axle forward and the 3-coupled axle in the rear, and to
duplex-drive them with conventionally arranged pistons. This resulted in the Q2, described in Locobase 350.
It is credited, however, with having developed 8,000 peak horsepower. In tests, the Q2 reached 7,987 hp at 57.4 mph evaporating 16,600 gal of water per hour and burning 12.5 tons of coal. According to Don Ball, at least, the Q-2 was a powerful machine in actual service as well.
The Q2 was a rigid-wheelbase locomotive that was subdivided into 2 axle groups: the forward pair of axles were driven by 19 3/4-in diameter cylinders with a stroke of 28 inches. The rear cylinder pair, located between the front axle and the 3-coupled rear group, had 23 3/4-in diam cylinders with a stroke of 29 inches. A trailing truck booster added 15,000 lb to the already high starting tractive effort. The engines were large and attractive with an air-smoothed casing similar to that of the SP's 2-8-8-4. 26 were built, including 6131 and the 25 built in 1945-1946.
Unfortunately, this exceptionally long engine and tender combination, styled by Raymond Loewy, was prone to slipping and was much too large for most service. Staufer (1968) agrees that she was oversized and thus unable to visit most roundhouses or handle tight curves, but contends: "She was an excellent steamer and gave trouble-free service." Indeed, this engine is regarded as the unofficial speed record-holder for steam by many because of runs she reportedly made pulling 850 to 1000-ton trains at 140-145 mph. Note that this high speed is made pulling a weight of train most other passenger locomotives couldn't get up to 50 mph.
Note the very tall drivers, odd-ball 3-axle leading and trailing trucks, and large tender.
The usual tractive effort figure is given as 71,900 lb at 80% cut-off. The figure given in the table permits easier comparison with other engines, most of which have indicated TEs based on the 85% efficiency factor.
The theory behind the duplex drive held that reducing the masses of reciprocating (e.g., main and side rods) and revolving (e.g., cranks and counterweights) would reduce hammering and raise speed. Tests run at a high boiler pressure and late cut-off showed 6,110 drawbar horsepower at 85 mph. In service, these engines could be fast, powerful, and smooth, pulling 910-ton passenger trains at 100 mph.
According to most sources, the divided drive proved to be a major maintenance headache, however, because no way could be found to stop one or the other driver-cylinder set from slipping, either starting or, more alarmingly, at high speed. This liability proved fatal to the chances for real success for these engines, and they were retired well before the much earlier vintage K-4 Pacifics.
But David R Stephenson, writing in the May 2005 Chesapeake and Ohio Historical Magazine (reproduced online at http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3943/is_200505/ai_n1342634, accessed 24 Oct 2005), says that C & O tests of the T1 in regular passenger service suggest otherwise. He contends that the C & O's reports show that:
"They handled trains well, particularly at higher speeds.
"They kept schedule and made up delays on most runs.
"They had no excessive tendency to slip.
'The stall at Waynesboro [a September 12, 1946 event often offered as a primary example of the design's slipping tendency] was caused by overloading."
Stephenson's meticulous, and thankfully clearly written, account of the September 1946 tests nevertheless shows some design weaknesses, particularly in starting trains. And he argues that the duplex solution was conceived to redress a potential problem that never quite materialized. As designers of 4-8-4s came to grips with counterbalancing and stress issues, they came up with such classics as the UP FEFs (Locobase 284), the Santa Fe 2900s (Locobase 271), the N & W Js (Locobase 274), and ultimately the S-1 Niagaras of the New York Central (Locobase 5582). "Here was a locomotive," Stephenson 's verdict concludes, "that could match the T1 at all but the highest speeds, and do it day-in and day-out without special treatment."
And the T1s' early departure from service came not from their own peculiar shortcomings, says Stephenson, but from the triumph of the diesel's "...superior economics ...and their immediate application to PRR's heaviest and most prestigious trains ...In the face of dieselization, the T1 just didn't matter."
A discussion on the Trains forum -- http://www.trains.com/TRC/CS/forums/482004/PrintPost.aspx -- gives details on the N & W in 1948.
| Specifications | ||||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | Q1 | Q2 | S1 | T1 |
| Locobase ID | 349 | 350 | 347 | 348 |
| Railroad | Pennsylvania (PRR) | Pennsylvania (PRR) | Pennsylvania (PRR) | Pennsylvania (PRR) |
| Whyte | 4-6-4-4 | 4-4-6-4 | 6-4-4-6 | 4-4-4-4 |
| Road Numbers | 6130 | 6175+ | 6100 | 5500-5549 |
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | Juniata | Juniata | Juniata | Several |
| Year | 1942 | 1945 | 1939 | 1945 |
| Valve Gear | Walschaert | Walschaert | Franklin poppet | |
| Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 26.83' | 26.37' | 26.50' | 25.33' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 54.83' | 53.46' | 64.33' | 51.92' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.49 | 0.49 | 0.41 | 0.49 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 123.75' | |||
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | ||||
| Weight on Drivers | 354700 lbs | 393000 lbs | 281450 lbs | 279910 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 593500 lbs | 619100 lbs | 608170 lbs | 502200 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 430000 lbs | 451840 lbs | 442500 lbs | |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 593500 lbs | 1049100 lbs | 1060010 lbs | 944700 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 19200 gals | 24230 gals | 19200 gals | |
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 37.5 tons | 26.5 tons | 42.6 tons | |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 118.23 lb rail | 131 lb rail | 117.27 lb rail | 116.63 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||
| Driver Diameter | 77" | 69" | 84" | 80" |
| Boiler Pressure | 300 psi | 300 psi | 300 psi | 300 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 23" x 28" (4) | 21.75" x 28.5" (4) | 22" x 26" (4) | 19.75" x 26" (4) |
| Tractive Effort | 98105 lbs | 99652 lbs | 76403 lbs | 64653 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 3.62 | 3.94 | 3.68 | 4.33 |
| Heating Ability | ||||
| Firebox Area | 725 sq. ft | 660 sq. ft | 490 sq. ft | |
| Grate Area | 121.70 sq. ft | 121.70 sq. ft | 132 sq. ft | 92 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 5518 | 6725 | 5661 | 4218 |
| Superheating Surface | 2290 | 2930 | 2085 | 1680 |
| Combined Heating Surface | 7808 | 9655 | 7746 | 5898 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 204.91 | 274.36 | 247.44 | 228.77 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 36510 | 36510 | 39600 | 27600 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 47217.98 | 47589.68 | 50259.18 | 35461.65 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 0 | 283504.66 | 251295.89 | 188871.82 |
| Power L1 | 0 | 51683.54 | 50899.28 | 47267.61 |
| Power MT | 0 | 1449.65 | 1594.79 | 1489.15 |
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