Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and tables in December 1894 American Engineer and Railroad Journal (AERJ).
Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and tables in December 1894 American Engineer and Railroad Journal (AERJ). Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book (supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection) says the firebox heating surface was 144 sq ft.
(The E & WV, which began service as a narrow-gauge railway, joined the Erie as the Wyoming Division in 1901.) Westing, Erie Power (1970), says that the three were rebuilt with two 21" x 24" cylinders. A photo shows a very stubby engine with widespread drivers.
The data in the specifications, taken from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection, represents the rebuilds.
Camelbacks from the E & WV. Note the small boiler and large firebox.
Camelback Moguls from the E & WV. Note the small boiler and large firebox. Identical to the F-8s in virtually every respect.
F-3s had the largest boilers in an Erie Mogul type, a fitting achievement for these sizable Camelbacks. Unlike most of the other engines, however, these had small and short 1 1/2" tubes and needed 431of them to supply enough heating surface for the sizable grate.
| Specifications | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class | D / F-1 | E / F-2 | F-10 | F-4 | F-5 | F-6 | F-7 | F-8 | F-9 | N / F-3 |
| Locobase ID | 364 | 371 | 4098 | 373 | 374 | 375 | 376 | 6698 | 6699 | 372 |
| Railroad | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | Erie & Wyoming Valley (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) | Erie & Wyoming Valley (ERR) | Erie & Wyoming Valley (ERR) | New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR) |
| Whyte | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 | 2-6-0 |
| Road Numbers | 741-743 | 700-707 | 204-205 | 206, 208-214 | 745-746 | |||||
| Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
| Builder | several | Erie | Burnham, Williams & Co | Brooks | Erie | Erie | Erie | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Williams & Co | Burnham, Parry, Williams & Co |
| Year | 1881 | 1882 | 1894 | 1888 | 1881 | 1881 | 1882 | 1885 | 1886 | 1886 |
| Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
| Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||||||||
| Driver Wheelbase | 15' | 15' | 14.17' | 15.50' | 15' | 15' | 15' | 14.17' | 14.17' | 15' |
| Engine Wheelbase | 22.60' | 22.71' | 21.58' | 25.90' | 22.72' | 22.71' | 22.54' | 21.67' | 21.67' | 22.71' |
| Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.60 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.65 | 0.66 |
| Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) | 47.02' | 47.04' | 46.79' | 46.48' | 47.04' | 47.04' | 47.04' | 46.21' | 46.21' | 48.37' |
| Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) | 26500 lbs | 32000 lbs | 42500 lbs | 32300 lbs | 31400 lbs | 32700 lbs | 32100 lbs | 31250 lbs | 31250 lbs | 43000 lbs |
| Weight on Drivers | 75300 lbs | 87900 lbs | 116400 lbs | 90000 lbs | 87200 lbs | 91300 lbs | 92800 lbs | 90000 lbs | 85300 lbs | 125330 lbs |
| Engine Weight | 88400 lbs | 103300 lbs | 133750 lbs | 103000 lbs | 103800 lbs | 105800 lbs | 109000 lbs | 103000 lbs | 98300 lbs | 142840 lbs |
| Tender Light Weight | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 108350 lbs | 63000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 77000 lbs | 57100 lbs | 57100 lbs | 87900 lbs |
| Total Engine and Tender Weight | 165400 lbs | 180300 lbs | 242100 lbs | 166000 lbs | 180800 lbs | 182800 lbs | 186000 lbs | 160100 lbs | 155400 lbs | 230740 lbs |
| Tender Water Capacity | 3600 gals | 3500 gals | 6000 gals | 3000 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 3600 gals | 2400 gals | 2400 gals | 4500 gals |
| Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) | 8 tons | 8.9 tons | 7 tons | 9 tons | 90000 gals | 8 tons | 8 tons | 5.5 tons | 5.5 tons | 9 tons |
| Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run | 41.83 lb rail | 48.83 lb rail | 64.67 lb rail | 50 lb rail | 48.44 lb rail | 50.72 lb rail | 51.56 lb rail | 50 lb rail | 47.39 lb rail | 69.63 lb rail |
| Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||||||||
| Driver Diameter | 56" | 68" | 57" | 56" | 62" | 68" | 62" | 56" | 56" | 62" |
| Boiler Pressure | 130 psi | 140 psi | 160 psi | 140 psi | 120 psi | 130 psi | 140 psi | 140 psi | 140 psi | 180 psi |
| Cylinders (dia x stroke) | 18" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 21" x 24" | 19" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 18" x 24" | 18" x 24" (3) | 18" x 24" (3) | 20" x 26" |
| Tractive Effort | 15344 lbs | 13608 lbs | 25253 lbs | 18411 lbs | 12793 lbs | 12636 lbs | 14925 lbs | 24786 lbs | 24786 lbs | 25665 lbs |
| Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.91 | 6.46 | 4.61 | 4.89 | 6.82 | 7.23 | 6.22 | 3.63 | 3.44 | 4.88 |
| Heating Ability | ||||||||||
| Firebox Area | 120 sq. ft | 152.50 sq. ft | 193 sq. ft | 124 sq. ft | 127 sq. ft | 127 sq. ft | 144 sq. ft | 183 sq. ft | 183 sq. ft | 174 sq. ft |
| Grate Area | 27 sq. ft | 27 sq. ft | 76 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 17 sq. ft | 27 sq. ft | 27 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 68 sq. ft | 77 sq. ft |
| Evaporative Heating Surface | 1149 | 1449 | 1806 | 1394 | 1157 | 1157 | 1450 | 1087 | 1087 | 1862 |
| Superheating Surface | ||||||||||
| Combined Heating Surface | 1149 | 1449 | 1806 | 1394 | 1157 | 1157 | 1450 | 1087 | 1087 | 1862 |
| Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 162.55 | 204.99 | 187.71 | 177.00 | 163.68 | 163.68 | 205.13 | 102.52 | 102.52 | 196.96 |
| Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||||||||
| Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 3510 | 3780 | 12160 | 2380 | 2040 | 3510 | 3780 | 9520 | 9520 | 13860 |
| Same as above plus superheater percentage | 3510 | 3780 | 12160 | 2380 | 2040 | 3510 | 3780 | 9520 | 9520 | 13860 |
| Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 15600 | 21350 | 30880 | 17360 | 15240 | 16510 | 20160 | 25620 | 25620 | 31320 |
| Power L1 | 3002.19 | 4964.10 | 4377.78 | 3341.41 | 3143.60 | 3735.14 | 4441.15 | 2467.20 | 2467.20 | 5375.07 |
| Power MT | 263.69 | 373.51 | 248.75 | 245.55 | 238.43 | 270.58 | 316.52 | 181.31 | 191.30 | 283.65 |
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