
With the surge in passenger business in the 1920's most railroads were being forced to operate extra trains or run their scheduled trains in sections simply because the locomotives in use could only haul about 12 cars. It was out of this need that the "super powered" locomotives were developed and of them the 4-8-4 was the most numerous and widely used.
The first 4-8-4 was built by the American Locomotive Company, in January, 1927, for the Northern Pacific. This locomotive was basically the 4-8-2 modified to accommodate a large grate area and a very deep firebox which was required to burn the very low grade of bituminous coal that the Northern Pacific produced from its own mines. This new wheel arrangement was dubbed "Northern Pacific", which was quickly shortened to "Northern".
There were 36 North American Railroads that owned and operated a total of 1,126 "Northern" type locomotives.
Some railroads, particularly the southern ones, rejected the "Northern" name and used names with a more regional connection. The C&O called them "Greenbriers"; the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western used the name "Poconos"; the Lehigh Valley came up with "Wyoming"; the Nashville, Chattanooga & St.Louis named them "Dixies"; the New York Central chose "Niagaras"; the Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac named each of its 27, 4-8-4s after southern generals, governors and statesmen; the Southern Pacific used the name "Golden State"; the Western Maryland dubbed them "Potomacs" and in Canada, the CNR named them "Confederations" while the Nacionale de Mexico called them "Niagras".
This locomotive carried road number 1111 and the Timken name and became known as "four aces" on the many railroads that tested it. In the two years it traveled the country it ran up an impressive record in both passenger and freight operation.
Designed for fast freight and passenger service, this locomotive was tested in drag freight operation and consistently did well without helpers. On one occasion it started a 132 car freight train of 9,864 tons.
Timken had "four aces" built so that the boiler pressure could be varied between 235 and 250 psi and its weight could be shifted between the drivers and trucks thus allowing the demonstrator to have a tractive effort of 59,900 lbs at 235 psi and 63,700 lbs at 250 psi. The locomotive weighed 417,500 lbs, had 73" drivers and 27 x 30 cylinders.
While being tested on the Northern Pacific, number 1111 suffered crown sheet damage. Timken was essentially finished with it and did not want a damaged locomotive and NP did not want to repair a locomotive it did not own. In order to resolve this stand-off, NP bought the locomotive, repaired it, numbered it 2626 and used it until 1955.
Information for this introduction to Northerns provided by Richard Duley.
| Railroad Line | Quantity, Builder | Name |
|---|---|---|
| Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe | 65 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Atlantic Coast Line | 12 Baldwin | 1800s |
| Canadian National | 130 MLW 30 Canadian Locomotive Works | Confederations |
| Canadan Pacific | 2 CPR | Northerns |
| Central of Georgia | 8 Lima | Big Apples |
| Chesapeake & Ohio | 12 Lima | Greenbriers |
| Chicago, Burlington & Quincy | 8 Baldwin 28 CB&Q | Northerns |
| Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul & Pacific | 10 ALCO 41 Baldwin 1 CMStP&P | Northerns |
| Chicago & North Western | 35 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Chicago, Rock Island & Pacific | 85 ALCO | Northerns |
| Delaware & Hudson | 15 ALCO | Northerns |
| Delaware, Lackawanna & Western | 55 ALCO | Poconos |
| Denver & Rio Grande Western | 19 Baldwin | Westerns |
| Grand Trunk Western | 37 ALCO 6 Lima | Confederations |
| Great Northern | 20 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Lehigh Valley | 21 ALCO 16 Baldwin | Wyomings |
| Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Sainte Marie | 4 Lima | Northerns |
| Missouri Pacific | 15 Baldwin 25 MP | Northerns |
| Nacionales de Mexico | 16 ALCO 16 Baldwin | Niágaras |
| Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis | 25 ALCO | Dixies |
| New York Central | 28 ALCO | Niagaras |
| Norfolk & Western | 14 N&W | Js |
| Northern Pacific | 13 ALCO 36 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Ontario Northland | 5 Canadian Locomotive Works | Northerns |
| Reading | 30 Reading | Northerns |
| Richmond, Fredericksburg & Potomac | 27 Baldwin | Generals, Governors & Statesmen |
| St. Louis San Francisco | 25 Baldwin | Northerns |
| St. Louis Southwestern | 10 Baldwin 10 SLSW | Northerns |
| Southern Pacific | 10 Baldwin 60 Lima | Golden States |
| Spokane, Portland & Seattle | 3 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Texas & Louisiana Lines | 4 Baldwin | Golden States |
| Toledo, Peoria & Western | 6 ALCO | Northerns |
| Union Pacific | 45 ALCO | Four-Eight-Fours |
| Wabash | 25 Baldwin | Northerns |
| Western Maryland | 12 Baldwin | Potomacs |
| Western Pacific | 6 Lima | Northerns |
| No. | Class | F.M. Whyte | Gauge | Railroad Line | Location | Status | Builder Information | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 819 | L-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SSW | restoration | SSW, 1942 | | |
| 3759 | 3751 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | display | Baldwin #60385, 1928 | | |
| 2921 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | display | Baldwin #69809, 1944 | ||
| 484 | GS-64 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | WP | display | tender only | ||
| 2925 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | stored | Baldwin #69813, 1944 | | |
| 3751 | 3751 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | operational | Baldwin #60004, 1927 | SBRHS securely stored with baggage car | |
| 5629 | O-5B | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | display | Burlington, 1940 | | |
| 2912 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | restoration | Baldwin #69800, 1944 | | |
| 814 | FEF-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | display | ALCO #68822, 1937 | | |
| 2913 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | cosmetic restoration | Baldwin #69801, 1943 | contact info | |
| 265 | S-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CMStP&P | display | ALCO, 1944 | ||
| 6323 | U-3-b | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GTW | display | ALCO (Schenectady) #69629, 1942 | | |
| 2903 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | display | Baldwin, 1944 | ||
| 4-8-4 | 15" | Kiddieland Limited | LaPorte Co Historical Steam Society, Hesston, IN | operational | Wagner & Sons Miniature Train Co, 1950 | From Kiddieland, Melrose Park, IL | ||
| 3768 | 3765 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | display | Baldwin #62122, 1938 | ||
| 1 (2101) | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | display | Baldwin, 1923 | ||
| 5000 | R-67a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CRI&P | unknown | ALCO, 1929 | Tender only. | |
| 261 | S-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CMStP&P | operational | ALCO #71974, 07/1944 | Moved under steam on Dec 12, 2012 after 4 years of major work. | |
| 4516 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | display | Baldwin #69732, 1943 | ||
| 4524 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | display | Baldwin #69740, 1943 | | |
| 5614 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | display | CB&Q (Aurora), 1937 | | |
| 4460 | GS-6 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP | display | Lima #8013, 1941 | ||
| 801 | 4-8-4 | 15" | ATT&NW | operational private | Merrick Locomotive Works, 2006 | |||
| 2584 | S-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GN | display | Baldwin #61238, 1930 | | |
| S-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CMStP&P | Ingomar, MT | display | Tender only | ||
| 2926 | 2900 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | AT&SF | restoration | Baldwin #69814, 1944 | Wheels Museum From Coronado Park. | |
| 6325 | U-3-b | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GTW | stored serviceable | ALCO #69631, 1942 | 2001 photo pulled first revenue excursion 09/2001 | |
| 4500 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | display | Baldwin #64449, 1942 | | |
| 700 | E1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP&S | operational | Baldwin #62171, 1938 | | |
| 2575 | S-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | GN | Baldwin, 1930 | tender only | ||
| 4449 | GS-4 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SP | out of service | Lima #7817, 1941 | 1472 day inpection | |
| 3028 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | restoration | ALCO #74383, 1946 | Volunteer under restoration since 1997 | |
| 2102 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | stored | Baldwin, 1923 | May be evaluated for restoration. | |
| 2124 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | display | Reading, 1946 | | |
| 576 | J3-57 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NC&StL | display | ALCO #69786, 1942 | NCPS may be moved to Tennessee Central Railroad Museum, Nashville for restoration | |
| 4501 | 4500 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | SLSF | display | Baldwin #64450, 1942 | | |
| 833 | FEF-2 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | display | |||
| 614 | J3a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | C&O | C&O Heritge Center, Clifton Forge, VA | stored operational | Lima #9306, 06/1948 | Iron Horse Enterprises From Port Clinton, PA |
| 611 | J | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | N&W | display | N&W #388, 1950 | restoration? | |
| 2100 | T-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | Reading | stored serviceable | Baldwin, 1923 | from Elgin Co. RY Museum, St. Thomas, ON | |
| 844 | FEF-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | operational | ALCO (Schenectady) #72791, 1944 | ||
| 838 | FEF-3 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | UP | stored | ALCO (Schenectady) #72785, 1944 | | |
| 5633 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | display | CB&Q (Aurora), 1940 | | |
| 5631 | O-5A | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CB&Q | display | CB&Q (Aurora), 1940 | | |
| 3035 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73020, 1946 | displayed with heavyweight passenger car and steam crane | |
| 3038 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73023, 1946 | | |
| 3036 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73021, 1946 | | |
| 2308 (3033) | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73018, 1946 | incorrectly renumbered as 2308 | |
| 3027 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | ALCO #74382, 1946 | | |
| 3031 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | stored | ALCO #74386, 1946 | From Trinity company plant | |
| 3039 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73024, 1946 | Cosmetically restored in 2012. | |
| 3040 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | Baldwin #73025, 1946 | from Jalapa, VER | |
| 3034 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | operational | Baldwin #73019, 1946 | | |
| 3056 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | stored | ALCO #74832, 1946 | from FNM scrapyard, Huehuetoca | |
| 3030 | QR-1 | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | NdeM | display | ALCO #74385, 1946 | 360 degree view | |
| 6218 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | display | MLW #69716, 1942 | | |
| 6167 | U-2-e | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | display | MLW #69262, 1940 | | |
| 6200 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | stored | MLW #69698, 1942 | | |
| 3100 | K1a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CPR | display | CPR (Angus) #2070, 1928 | | |
| 6400 | U-4-a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | display | MLW #68715, 1936 | Streamlined | |
| 6213 | U-2-g | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | display | MLW #69711, 1942 | TRHA Once displayed at Exhibition Place. Restoration to operational condition being explored | |
| 6153 | U-2-c | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CNR | display | MLW #67782, 1929 | ||
| 3101 | K1a | 4-8-4 | 4'-8½" | CPR | display | CPR (Angus) #2071, 1928 | |