Reid Newfoundland / Grand Trunk Western / Grand Trunk Pacific / Central Vermont / Canadian Northern / Canadian Government / Grand Trunk / Canadian National 4-6-2 "Pacific" Type Locomotives

Class 190 / J-8a (Locobase 3226)

These narrow-gauge Pacifics offered a good level of power when they were delivered. The hilly, twisting main line dictated the low drivers, but the Belpaire boiler had plenty in reserve. Baldwin produced the first of this narrow-gauge railway's Pacifics in 1921 as a quartet (works #54398-54401), adding two more (54466-67) later in the month. Compared to later Newfie 4-6-2s, these were a bit smaller, a bit lighter.

1921 Railway Age (Vol 70, #16)

Two other websites allow Locobase to piece together more of the history of this class. http://home.thezone.net/~sharvey/nfrail.htm (visited 1 Feb 2004) says in particular that #593 (works number 54401) was delivered in response to an order submitted on 17 September 1920. Costing $36,870 (currency not specified), she was delivered in 1921. Over the next 18 years, 593 worked passenger trains, then was employed as a switcher until 1957. At the time of her retirement, she'd traveled 1.5 million miles (all in Newfoundland!).

Another website -- http://www.heritage.nf.ca/society/railway_operations.html (visited 1 Feb 2004) -- focuses on the history of Newfoundland and, in an entry on Railway Operations & Equipment, notes that this "190" class were the workhorses of the railway in the 1920s. (Reid Newfoundland never made a profit and was taken over by the Canadian government in 1923. Visit the website for a full and fascinating account of this railway.)

Class 196 / J-8-b (Locobase 4571)

Data from CN to 1953 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The roster from http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/CNRsteam.html (1 Feb 2004) shows 196 came from Baldwin in 1926 (works #59531), 197 from Montreal Locomotive Works in 1927. Compared to the earlier J-8-a, this design was bigger and had more cylinder volume. Its firebox later was reconfigured to hold thermic syphons in place of arch tubes.

Class 198 / J-8c (Locobase 4572)

Data from CN to 1953 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The roster from http://www.angelfire.com/ca/TORONTO/CNRsteam.html (1 Feb 2004) reveals the date of the 2-locomotive order. These were essentially duplicates of the 1926 J-8b (Locobase 4571).

Class J-1-a (Locobase 2737)

Data from CN to 1953 locomotive diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Works numbers were 52255 to 52257.

NB: Data from reproduction of 1913 Alco Bulletin 1016 on Richard Leonard's http://www.railarchive.net/alcopacifics/index.html (accessed 16 June 2006) show identical tube & flue counts as well as the same length over tube sheets, but the result is a smaller superheater surface - 590 sq ft -- and more evaporative heating surface -- 2,478 sq ft, including the same 180 sq ft of firebox as shown in the CN diagrams.

Class J-3-b - 1913 (Locobase 7606)

Data from reproduction of 1913 Alco Bulletin 1016 on Richard Leonard's http://www.railarchive.net/alcopacifics/index.html (accessed 16 June 2006).

Locobase 7091 shows the Baldwin J-3a class with data taken from the 1953 diagram book. A comparison of tube counts (181 in this one, 139 in the "J-3") and heating surfaces minus direct heating surface is approximately proportional. So was the class later subjected to a considerable diminution in heating surface for maintenance reasons?

Class J-4-a / J-4b (Locobase 8068)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Starting this numerous class of small Pacifics were 5 from Montreal (works #54764-54768) in 1914. Canadian Locomotive Corporation followed with 5 more (works #1340-1344) two years later. Some of these had their fireboxes reconfigured with thermic syphons instead of arch tubes; they then possessed 266 sq ft of direct heating surface.

See Locobase 132 for the J-4e/f classes.

Like all of the J-4s, these useful 4-6-2s lasted to the end of steam on the CNR.

Class J-4e/f (Locobase 132)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Although coming into service 6 years after the first J-4s (Locobase 8068), these engines were not substantially different. Their boilers had 8 more tubes and the firebox heating surface grew by 52 sq ft. And, as usually happens, they had put on weight. Like the others, they ran on the CNR until the end of steam.

Class J-7a/b/c (Locobase 5087)

Data from CNR locomotive diagram shown on Steamtown's special studies site http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs3d.htm, revisited 30 May 2003. The firebox heating surface area included arch tubes. These were MLW works #59462-59491, 60475-60489 (1919), 61940-61949 (1920)

The NPS study comments that this locomotive design was very similar to the USRA Pacifics built in the same period, adding "...this locomotive was typical of 4-6-2s that operated all over North America in the 1920s through 1950s. They served on both main lines and branch lines, and though generally considered passenger train locomotives, they occasionally pulled freight."

Class K-1-a/b/c (Locobase 8070)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

These were relatively small Pacifics that began delivery in 1905 as saturated-steam locomotives. The CLC supplied the first 11 in 1905 (works #652-662). For some reason, a six-year gap separated the second CLC batch from the first. Locobase 8071 shows that the CGR bought Montreal Locomotive Works near-sisters in that time. The CLC delivered its latter batch in 1911 (1019-1021 and 1032-1033). Beginning in 1923, they were rebuilt with superheaters and Walschaert gear.

Class K-1-d/e (Locobase 8071)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Continuing the procurement of light Pacifics begun with a small order from CLC in 1905 (see Locobase 8071), the CGR ordered all 26 of its Montreal-built engines of the same design in the interim between the two CLC batches. 1906 saw 15 K-1-d produced in a batch (works #38901-38915) followed by 10 more K-1-e in 1908 (44556-44565) and the last one in 1910 (47666). Like the CLC engines, these went into service as saturated-steam locomotives, being rebuilt later with superheaters and, in some cases, Walschaert gear. The heavier variant -- K-1-e -- is shown in the specs.

Class K-2-a (Locobase 8072)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

These were the first of the big Pacifics that the CGR began acquiring in the teens. Montreal's works # ran 53851-53854. Although the grate was relatively generous, the firerbox heating surface was relatively stingy at about 5.9% of the evaporative heating surface total. This would be remedied to some extent in the next two batches; see Locobase 8073.

Class K-2-b/c (Locobase 8073)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

A year after the CGR introduced its large Pacific design (Locobase 8072), the two major Canadian builders supplied locomotives of the same tractive effort but a different balance between boiler and firebox. Montreal's batch came first (54759-54763) in 1914 with CLC contributing 5 more (1335-1339) two years later. In the K-2-b & c, the boiler had the same superheater, but fewer boiler tubes and its firebox grew with the addition of some arch tubes. Much later, the Canadian National fitted removed the arch tubes and added 65 sq ft of thermic syphons.

Class K-3-g (Locobase 8075)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Similar in many respects to the Grand Trunk's other K-3s (Locobase 8074), this subclass differed in having more boiler tubes and cylinders of 1" smaller diameter. A couple of the class were fitted with thermic syphons, which likely increased the firebox heating surface to 231 sq ft, if similar installations in other K-3s are any guide.

Class K-3b (Locobase 7097)

Data from CV 1957 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The CV didn't have much call for Pacifics, so this trio did the job for the railroad for 40 years until the end of steam.

Class K-4-a (Locobase 4362)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

This relatively high-drivered quintet came from Alco as works # 65288-65291 and were delivered to the Grand Trunk Western. Their Baldwin mates came 5 years later and had a different boiler; see Locobase 6650.

Class K-4-b (Locobase 6650)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

The first K-4s came from Alco (see Locobase 4362). These Baldwins (works 61073-61075) were delivered 5 years later. They had Coffin feedwater heaters and thermic syphons.

Class P-4 / K-3 series (Locobase 8074)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection.

Grand Trunk's Pacific purchases settled quickly on a design that shared the power dimensions with many of the Pacifics then operating on the Canadian Government Railway and on the Central Vermont. But the variety of builders ranged from the GT's own shops to Montreal Locomotive Works and Baldwin. The subclasses were distinguished in part by its different valve gears. K-3-a and d (1910-1913) were fitted with Walschaert, K-3-b (1910) with Baker, and K-3-c/e/f (1911, 1912, & 1920) all had Young gear.

The specs show the class as later fitted with thermic syphons, which increased the firebox heating surface by 50 sq ft.

Class P-5 / J-3a, J-3b (Locobase 7091)

Data from the 1953 Canadian National locomotive diagram supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive collection. Baldwin works #: 38441-38445, 38591-38595 in October 1912 and 38643-38647, 38803-38806 in November 1912.

This large class of relatively small Pacifics was delivered to the Grand Trunk over a two-year period and was supplied from Baldwin (100-118) in 1912. Others were produced by Montreal Locomotive Works;see Locobase 7606.

Some were later equipped with 50 sq ft of thermic syphons, which increased their firebox heating surface to 231 sq ft.

Specifications
Class190 / J-8a196 / J-8-b198 / J-8cJ-1-aJ-3-b - 1913J-4-a / J-4bJ-4e/fJ-7a/b/cK-1-a/b/cK-1-d/eK-2-aK-2-b/cK-3-gK-3bK-4-aK-4-bP-4 / K-3 seriesP-5 / J-3a, J-3b
Locobase ID32264571457227377606806813250878070807180728073807570974362665080747091
RailroadReid Newfoundland (CNR)Reid Newfoundland (CNR)Reid Newfoundland (CNR)Canadian Northern (CNR)Grand Trunk (CNR)Canadian National (CNR)Canadian National (CNR)Canadian National (CNR)Canadian Government (CNR)Canadian Government (CNR)Canadian Government (CNR)Canadian Government (CNR)Grand Trunk Pacific (CNR)Central Vermont (CNR)Grand Trunk Western (CNR)Canadian National (CNR)Grand Trunk (CNR)Grand Trunk (CNR)
Whyte4-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-24-6-2
Road Numbers190-195 / 590-595196-197198-199 /598-599700-703 / 5000-50035048-5079453-57, 463-67 / 5080-895125-51565250-5304401-412/ 5501-5516413-438444-447 / 53851-53854448-452, 458-462 /5547-561100-1114230-2315627-56315632-345557-56115030-5048
Gauge3'6""3'6""3'6""StdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStdStd
BuilderBaldwinseveralAlcoMontreal LWMontreal LWseveralMontreal LWMontreal LWCanadian Locomotive CoMontreal LWMontreal LWseveralMontreal LWBaldwinAlcoBaldwinseveralBaldwin
Year192119261929191319131914192019191905190619131914191119121924192919101912
Valve GearWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertWalschaertseveralWalschaert
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase10'10'10'13'13.33'13'13'13'12.58'12.58'13'13'13.33'13.33'13'13'13.33'13.33'
Engine Wheelbase27.25'27.25'27.25'33.58'33.17'33.83'33.83'33.83'31.58'31.58'33.83'33.83'33.17'33.17'35.83'35.83'33.17'33.17'
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheebase 0.37 0.37 0.37 0.39 0.40 0.38 0.38 0.38 0.40 0.40 0.38 0.38 0.40 0.40 0.36 0.36 0.40 0.40
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender)50.67'50.79'50.96'65.71'62.29'66.56'66.39'64.70'61.31'61.31'64.31'66.56'62.43'64.21'70.62'72.56'62.29'62.29'
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle)
Weight on Drivers78000 lbs87000 lbs91000 lbs136400 lbs145500 lbs156900 lbs164600 lbs174000 lbs127000 lbs133555 lbs134000 lbs155240 lbs143500 lbs158800 lbs170000 lbs184540 lbs149550 lbs146550 lbs
Engine Weight115000 lbs128400 lbs132000 lbs216000 lbs226000 lbs247000 lbs260000 lbs268000 lbs187000 lbs195560 lbs243500 lbs243530 lbs219100 lbs240880 lbs285500 lbs299330 lbs229000 lbs226000 lbs
Tender Light Weight54000 lbs88970 lbs92000 lbs142000 lbs142800 lbs151700 lbs156600 lbs147000 lbs151500 lbs151500 lbs147600 lbs149150 lbs158000 lbs157000 lbs198800 lbs210970 lbs158000 lbs150000 lbs
Total Engine and Tender Weight169000 lbs217370 lbs224000 lbs358000 lbs368800 lbs398700 lbs416600 lbs415000 lbs338500 lbs347060 lbs391100 lbs392680 lbs377100 lbs397880 lbs484300 lbs510300 lbs387000 lbs376000 lbs
Tender Water Capacity3600 gals3340 gals3340 gals6000 gals8000 gals7800 gals6500 gals6500 gals7800 gals7800 gals7800 gals7800 gals8040 gals8000 gals10000 gals10000 gals8040 gals9000 gals
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal)9 tons1065 gals1665 gals12 tons10 tons tons tons10 tons13.2 tons13.2 tons11 tons11 tons15.4 tons10 tons16 tons16 tons15.4 tons12 tons
Minimum weight per yard of rail on which locomotive could run43.33 lb rail48.33 lb rail50.56 lb rail75.78 lb rail80.83 lb rail87.17 lb rail91.44 lb rail96.67 lb rail70.56 lb rail74.20 lb rail74.44 lb rail86.24 lb rail79.72 lb rail88.22 lb rail94.44 lb rail102.52 lb rail83.08 lb rail81.42 lb rail
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter52"52"52"69"69"69"69"69"72"72"73"73"73"73"73"73"73"69"
Boiler Pressure174 psi180 psi190 psi174 psi188.50 psi205 psi200 psi200 psi200 psi200 psi200 psi200 psi200 psi195 psi200 psi200 psi195 psi190 psi
Cylinders (dia x stroke)17" x 24"18" x 24"18" x 24"23" x 28"23" x 28"22" x 28"23.5" x 28"24" x 28"21" x 28"21" x 28"23.5" x 28"23.5" x 28"22" x 28"23" x 28"25" x 28"25" x 28"23" x 28"23" x 28"
Tractive Effort19728 lbs22879 lbs24150 lbs31749 lbs34395 lbs34224 lbs38097 lbs39736 lbs29155 lbs29155 lbs36010 lbs36010 lbs31559 lbs33631 lbs40753 lbs40753 lbs33631 lbs34669 lbs
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 3.95 3.80 3.77 4.30 4.23 4.58 4.32 4.38 4.36 4.58 3.72 4.31 4.55 4.72 4.17 4.53 4.45 4.23
Heating Ability
Firebox Area105 sq. ft127 sq. ft138 sq. ft180 sq. ft184 sq. ft215 sq. ft267 sq. ft242 sq. ft189 sq. ft162 sq. ft188 sq. ft201 sq. ft169 sq. ft181 sq. ft269 sq. ft344 sq. ft231 sq. ft181 sq. ft
Grate Area27.60 sq. ft30 sq. ft30.10 sq. ft48.20 sq. ft50.62 sq. ft56.50 sq. ft56.40 sq. ft56.50 sq. ft45.80 sq. ft45.75 sq. ft56.50 sq. ft56.50 sq. ft50.62 sq. ft50.62 sq. ft66.70 sq. ft66.70 sq. ft50.62 sq. ft50.62 sq. ft
Evaporative Heating Surface146316371650241228182878301633362111217531832899280427543341341824252425
Superheating Surface343380397660503691691757485485678678578626794789578578
Combined Heating Surface180620172047307233213569370740932596266038613577338233804135420730033003
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume232.04231.59233.43179.14209.29233.62214.57227.55188.07193.77226.45206.24227.61204.54210.02214.86180.10180.10
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation4802.40540057198386.809541.8711582.501128011300916091501130011300101249870.9013340133409870.909617.80
Same as above plus superheater percentage5714.486417.356828.1610188.6510987.0913825.0113382.6413389.9310871.3310818.3313284.3013441.8511854.2411699.0615901.5415841.8411770.7911468.98
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area21739.8827166.7931305.1738048.9139937.2552608.4363353.9857351.5844862.0238307.5244202.6447819.6839576.5841831.8864130.6481703.075371541009.19
Power L112138.1412561.9513774.6713749.6913306.4519466.0817295.4917820.1515867.2215715.4117700.8917321.7717482.9416374.6618098.6218721.1915474.2613845.62
Power MT1029.23954.981001.14666.70604.86820.56694.96677.36826.33778.25873.67737.98805.78681.99704.13670.96684.35624.86

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