Roberval & Saguenay 2-8-0 Locomotives in Canada

Class Details by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class unknown (Locobase 6414)

Data from [], Dr Jonathan Smith's unofficial website for the Boone & Scenic Valley Railroad in Iowa (visited 11 Dec 2004). Dr Smith explains that 17 served the R&S (near Arvida, PQ) until the line closed in 1970. A tourist line -- the Crab Orchard & Egyptian of Marion, IL -- bought it in 1975.

17 seems to have been one of the last used in revenue service in the US. Apparently before the CO&E's shop crew had a chance to prepare it for passenger service, a depot fire in 1977 led to a decision to operate as a freight-only line. Seeing the relatively fresh 2-8-0 in their yard, the CO&E restored it to service without its superheater or feedwater heater.

The BSV bought the 17 in 1987.

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media

Locobase ID6414
RailroadRoberval & Saguenay
Number in Class1
Road Numbers17
Number Built1
BuilderCanadian Locomotive Co
Valve GearStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)210,560 / 95,509
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)235,200 / 106,685
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)69,440 / 31,497
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)304,640 / 138,182
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)8400 / 31.82
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)15.70 / 14
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)88 / 44
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)57 / 1448
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)200 / 13.80
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)23" x 30" / 584x762
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)47,332 / 21469.46
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.45
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)50 / 4.65
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2319 / 215.52
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)564 / 52.42
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)2883 / 267.94
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume160.71
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation10,000
Same as above plus superheater percentage12,000
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area
Power L1
Power MT

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