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Class Details by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class 111 (Locobase 13411)

Data from Wiki PLM [link].

All of the class was delivered with names: 522 Aigrette, 523 Emerillon, 524 Gerfaut, 525 Loriot, 526 Courlis, 527 Bengali, 528Hibou, 529 Chouette, 530 Linotte, 531 Orfraie, 532 Coucou, 533 Geai, 534 Pinson, 535 Griffon, 536 Alcyon, 537 Albatros, 538 SirFne, 539 Orion, 540 Sirius, 541 VellTda, 542 Mundricard, 543 Agrican, 544 Agramant, 545 MTdTe, 546 Pandore, 547 Trilby, 548 Antiopo, 549 CircT, 550 Alcine, 551 Petit Poucet, 552 Chamois, 553 Isard, 554 Sansonnet, 555 Bouvreuil, 556 Serin, 557 Ramier, 558 Pie, 559 Corbeau, 560 Merle, 561 Pingouin, 562 Alouette, 563 Tiercelet.

The first withdrawals of this class came in 1878-1879 (3) followed by 10 in 1885-1888 with the remainder being retired 20 years later in 1905-1909.


Class 111 (Locobase 15575)

Data from diagram Loco: 6, Societe Alsacienne de Constructions Mecaniques from locomotive book supplied by Dany Machi up at [link] as

Diagrammes des machines SACM construites a GRAFENSTADEN (October 2007). Works numbers were 173-184 and 191-200 in 1854, 201-210 in 1855

Like the Midi six-wheeler shown in Locobase 15574, this Koechlin-designed engine had a domeless boiler with a small regulator box behind the stack. The stack was straight, however, with a flared top. The driver and fireman stood on a footplate with no protection from the elements. Just ahead was the prominent safety valve stand on the firebox.


Class 143 (Locobase 13414)

Data from Wiki PLM [link], last accessed 12 November 2011..

All of the class was delivered with names: 586 Gazelle, 587 Antilope, 588 Licorne, 589 Elan, 590 Biche, 591 Renne, 592 Vigogne, 593 Chevreuil, 594 Chevrette, 595 Paon, 596 Daim, 597 Axis.

These were delivered in the same year as the larger Koechlin order described in Locobase 13408 and were very similar. They were, however, a bit lighter.

Retirements occurred over a long period with four going in 1878 (594-597), two in 1888 (626, 633), one in (627), two in 1906 (630-631), two more in 1908 (628-629), and one in 1909 (632).


Class 21/576 // 619/576 // 931/649 (Locobase 13408)

Data from Wiki PLM [link].

Specifications for 1869 updated version; by that time the boiler had sacrificed 17 tubes. The second batch -- 576-585 -- had names: 576 Nisus, 577 PhFdre, 578 Andromaque, 579 IphigTnie, 580 Didon, 581 Sapho, 582 GalathTe, 583 Zanre, 584 MTrope, 585 BTrTnice. The third batch -- 564 Chardonneret, 565 Buse, 566 Colibri, 567 Pivert, 568 Roitelet, 569 Corneille, 570 Toucan, 571 Perroquet, 572 Pigeon, 573 Perdrix, 574 Tourterelle, 575 Perruche -- arrived in 1858.

The accompanying profile diagram shows that the leading carrying wheels were not much smaller than the drivers. The front axle was closer to the first driven axle than that one was to the trailing axle.

All of the first batch was retired from mixed-traffic duties in 1885-1886 and converted to 2-4-0T terminal switchers; see Locobase 13431. As such they were renumbered 3 620-3 631.

The second batch was simply retired beginning in 1883-1884 (649 and 650), 1890 (658), the others all went in 1905-1909. And third-batch retirements went earlier, beginning with the 575 in 1879. 667-669 followed in 1887, and 666 in 1890 (no satanic phenomena were noted). 660-661 lasted until 1905, 663-665 in 1906, 662 in 1908, and 659 in 1909.


Class 3 620 / 5 620 (Locobase 13431)

Data from Wiki PLM [link], last accessed 13 November 2011..

The conversion of the 2-4-0 tender engines of the 931-942 series (described in Locobase 13408) involved very little change other than putting the fuel and water supplies on the the locomotive itself.

After another 20 years, the class was retired in 1908-1910.


Class 396 / 558 (Locobase 13413)

Data from [link], last accessed 12 November 2011.

When Gouin delivered this quintet in 1858, they all had names: 558 Venise, 559 VTrone, 560 Mantoue, 561 Vicence, 562 MGcon.

Locobase why this class served the VE for less than 30 years. 558 and 562 were retired in 1881 and the others went in 1883.


Class 599 (Locobase 13416)

Data from Wiki PLM [link], last accessed 12 November 2011.

Koechlin supplied a lot of 6-wheelers to PLM constituents, led by this set of 20 engines:

Retirements began with 610, 618 in 1878. 619 followed in 1887. The others all operated for the better part of two more decades. 612, 615-617, 621-622 went in 1906; 609-610, 625 in 1907; 611, 613-614, 618, 620, 623 in 1908; and 608, 624 in 1909.


Class 631 / 634 (Locobase 13417)

Data from Wiki PLM [link], last accessed on 12 November 2011.

Most of the 2-4-0s to go into service on the various predecessors of the PLM were similar in size and power. This set, produced somewhat later than many of the others, had somewhat larger boilers. A photo in the Wiki PLM site shows the classically cluttered profile of this arrangement at this time: A tall lipped stack, thick dome over the lead auxiliary axle and wearing an oversized, hemispherical cap, saddle-bag sandbox just behind the dome and over the leading axle, paired air reservoirs over the firebox, high running board with small splashers and even smaller copings over the outside-crank paths, spectacle board protecting the crew, and sketchy canopy.

All remained in service on the PLM until 1905-1909, withdrawals occuring in 1905 : 638, 640, 644; 1906 : 634, 641, 645, 648; 1907 : 636-637; 1908 : 639, 642, 647; 1909 : 635, 643, 646.


Class 795 / 906 / 3 391-3 394 (Locobase 13428)

Data from the PLM Wiki vault crammed with data and plans at [link], last accessed 13 November 2011. The plan comes from the 1869 PLM plan book collected by Roland Sermet.

Perhaps the last of the 6-wheelers to be built to a common design over the previous decades, this locomotive

As part of the PLM motive-power roster after 1860, the 795s were updated with domed boilers in 1873. See Locobase 13420 for an example of an updated engine's resulting weights and areas.

Many increased boiler pressure first to 9 kg/sq cm (128 psi) in 1874 and 10 kg/sq cm (142 psi) in 1904.

The first retirement in the class was the 908 in 1912. Only one more locomotive (906) would be withdrawn before the end of World War One. The last four were taken out of service in 1924-1928.


Class 801 (Locobase 13420)

Data from the PLM Wiki vault crammed with data and plans at [link], last accessed 12 November 2011. The plan comes from the 1869 PLM plan book collected by Roland Sermet.

The firm at le Creusot added its own batch of 15 Six-wheelers to the Parent & Schaken (later Fives-Lille) engines shown in Locobases 13418-13419. Schneider delivered essentially the same design shown in those earlier entries, but the specs show a later, slightly smaller boiler gained during the rebuilding that added a tall dome in 1873.

The class served light local passenger trains for over 50 years before retiring in 1909-1924.


Class 816 (Locobase 13421)

Data from the PLM Wiki vault crammed with data and plans at [link], last accessed 12 November 2011. The plan comes from the 1869 PLM plan book collected by Roland Sermet.

In the same year that Schneider-leCreusot delivered its batch of 6-wheelers (Locobase 13420), Koechlin added 4 more with slightly higher boiler pressures and lower weights. Like the others, these engines later received slightly taller (1, 640 mm) drivers as well.

Like the other batches of similar locomotives, this quartet was retired over a long period in 1910 (930), 1912 (927-928), and 1924 (929).


Class C 51 / C3 (Locobase 3903)

Data taken from Edouard Sauvage, "Four-Cylinder Compound Locomotives in France", Railroad Gazette, Volume XXXII [32], No.39 (28 September 1900), pp.629-631 using information compiled through direct communications with the various designers; , supplemented by [link], last accessed 12 November 2011.

Adolph Henry's last hurrah, this 6-wheeler used the same boiler, grate, and motion as the C.11 8-wheelers but dispensed with one of the carrying axles. As Henry died before this engine was completed, it was a one-of-a-kind as his successor Charles Baudry joined the trend toward 4-cylinder compound 4-4-0s on French railroads. (See Reder (1974, pp. 200-201).

The lone express 6-wheeler ran until 1924.


Class Empress / 670 (Locobase 13415)

Data from Wiki PLM [link], last accessed 12 November 2011.

A lone machine with a royal name, the Empress saw very little changes before it was retired in 1882.


Class GOnes / 554 (Locobase 13429)

Data from [link], last accessed 13 November 2011.

Like other VE locomotives, these tank engines came to the line with names: 997 GOnes, 998 Odette, 999 Georgina, 1000 Charles-Albert.

Unlike many other PLM locomotives, these engines had relatively short careers. the 554-556 were all retired in 1881 with the 557 following in 1882.

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class11111114321/576 // 619/576 // 931/6493 620 / 5 620
Locobase ID13411 15575 13414 13408 13431
RailroadLyon-Mediterranee (PLM)Lyon-Mediterrannee (PLM)Lyon-Mediterranee (PLM)Lyon-Geneve (PLM)Lyon-Geneve (PLM)
CountryFranceFranceFranceFranceFrance
Whyte2-4-02-4-02-4-02-4-02-4-0T
Number in Class4185103411
Road Numbers111-142, 169-178/522-563/569-607111-142, 169-178, 522-563/143-154 / 586-597 / 626-63321-32 / 619-630, 649-658 / 931-9423 620-3 631 / 5 620-5 631
GaugeStdStdStdStdStd
Number Built41851034
BuilderKoechlinKoechlinSchneider-CreusotKoechlinPLM-Arles
Year18541854185418561885
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 5.77 / 1.76 5.77 / 1.76 5.77 / 1.76 5.77 / 1.76 5.77 / 1.76
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)10.84 / 3.3111.55 / 3.5210.84 / 3.3110.84 / 3.3110.84 / 3.31
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.53 0.50 0.53 0.53 0.53
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)32.51 / 9.9110.84 / 3.31
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)23,369 / 10,60022,774 / 10,33023,369 / 10,60030,490 / 13,830
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)47,796 / 21,68045,547 / 20,66046,738 / 21,20060,980 / 27,660
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)65,940 / 29,91066,580 / 30,20063,273 / 28,70065,301 / 29,62083,776 / 38,000
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)41,888 / 19,000
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)108,468 / 49,20083,776 / 38,000
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)2020 / 7.65713 / 2.70
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 2.10 / 2 1.10 / 1
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)40 / 2038 / 1939 / 19.5051 / 25.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)65 / 165066.10 / 168065 / 165057.90 / 147057.90 / 1470
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)127.60 / 880113.10 / 780127.60 / 880127.60 / 880127.60 / 880
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)15.75" x 22.05" / 400x56016.14" x 23.62" / 410x60015.75" x 22.05" / 400x56016.54" x 24.02" / 420x61016.54" x 24.02" / 420x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)9127 / 4139.948949 / 4059.209127 / 4139.9412,309 / 5583.2812,309 / 5583.28
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 5.24 4.99 3.80 4.95
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)152 - 1.969" / 50164 - 1.811" / 46152 - 1.969" / 50166 - 1.969" / 50166 - 1.969" / 50
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)12.86 / 3.9213.65 / 4.1612.86 / 3.9211.88 / 3.6211.88 / 3.62
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)72.44 / 6.7384.39 / 7.8472.44 / 6.7377.39 / 7.1973.20 / 6.80
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)12.27 / 1.1412.49 / 1.1612.27 / 1.1413.78 / 1.2813.78 / 1.28
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1000 / 92.881145 / 106.391000 / 92.881090 / 101.281088 / 101.07
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1000 / 92.881145 / 106.391000 / 92.881090 / 101.281088 / 101.07
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume201.12204.71201.12182.48182.14
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation15661413156617581758
Same as above plus superheater percentage15661413156617581758
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area92439545924398759340
Power L137873491378730452997
Power MT349.36366.61287.26216.70

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class396 / 558599631 / 634795 / 906 / 3 391-3 394801
Locobase ID13413 13416 13417 13428 13420
RailroadVE (PLM)Lyon-Geneve (PLM)Lyon-Mediterranee (PLM)Paris-Lyon-Mediterranee (PLM)Paris-Lyon-Mediterrannee (PLM)
CountryFranceFranceFranceFranceFrance
Whyte2-4-02-4-02-4-02-4-02-4-0
Number in Class52015615
Road Numbers396-400 / 558-562599-618/608-625631-645 / 634-648795-800 / 906-911/ 3 391-3 394801-815/ 912-926 /3 395-3 398
GaugeStdStdStdStdStd
Number Built52015615
BuilderGouinKoechlinKoechlinKoechlinSchneider-Creusot
Year18581853186318601864
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 5.91 / 1.80 5.77 / 1.76 5.77 / 1.76 5.71 / 1.74 5.71 / 1.74
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)11.48 / 3.5010.84 / 3.3110.86 / 3.3111.52 / 3.5111.52 / 3.51
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.51 0.53 0.53 0.50 0.50
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)21,164 / 960024,912 / 11,30023,149 / 10,50024,207 / 10,98026,081 / 11,830
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)42,329 / 19,20049,824 / 22,60046,297 / 21,00048,413 / 21,96052,161 / 23,660
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)60,120 / 27,27067,505 / 30,62067,329 / 30,54065,698 / 29,80069,181 / 31,380
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)35 / 17.5042 / 2139 / 19.5040 / 2043 / 21.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)66.10 / 168065 / 165065 / 165063 / 160063 / 1600
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)127.60 / 880127.60 / 880127.60 / 880113.10 / 780113.10 / 780
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)16.54" x 23.62" / 420x60015.75" x 22.05" / 400x56015.75" x 22.05" / 400x56017.72" x 23.62" / 450x60016.54" x 23.62" / 420x600
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)10,603 / 4809.459127 / 4139.949127 / 4139.9411,317 / 5133.319860 / 4472.43
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 3.99 5.46 5.07 4.28 5.29
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)145 - 1.969" / 50152 - 1.969" / 50177 - 1.969" / 50178 - 1.969" / 50167 - 1.969" / 50
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)13.29 / 4.0512.86 / 3.9212.86 / 3.9213.94 / 4.2513.94 / 4.25
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)79.87 / 7.4272.44 / 6.7381.16 / 7.5481.91 / 7.6181.59 / 7.58
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)13.02 / 1.2112.27 / 1.1413.78 / 1.2813.46 / 1.2513.46 / 1.25
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)990 / 91.971000 / 92.881161 / 107.861259 / 116.941186 / 110.15
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)990 / 91.971000 / 92.881161 / 107.861259 / 116.941186 / 110.15
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume168.54201.12233.50186.74201.91
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation16611566175815221522
Same as above plus superheater percentage16611566175815221522
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area10,191924310,35692649228
Power L133253787435629393223
Power MT346.35335.14414.86267.67272.44

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class816C 51 / C3Empress / 670GOnes / 554
Locobase ID13421 3903 13415 13429
RailroadParis-Lyon-Mediterrannee (PLM)Paris-Lyon-Mediterrannee (PLM)Lyon-Mediterranee (PLM)VE (PLM)
CountryFranceFranceFranceFrance
Whyte2-4-02-4-02-4-02-4-0T
Number in Class4114
Road Numbers816-819/927-930C.51 / C 3598 / 670997-1000 / 554-557
GaugeStdStdStdStd
Number Built4114
BuilderKoechlinPLMPLM-NimesCockerill
Year1864189118581856
Valve GearStephensonWalschaertStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 5.71 / 1.74 9.19 / 2.80 5.68 / 1.73 6.67 / 2.03
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)11.52 / 3.5120.01 / 6.1011.48 / 3.5012.25 / 3.73
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.50 0.46 0.49 0.54
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)12.25 / 3.73
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)24,824 / 11,26034,745 / 15,76019,158 / 869031,967 / 14,500
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)49,648 / 22,52069,225 / 31,40038,316 / 17,38063,934 / 29,000
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)67,087 / 30,430101,611 / 46,09056,526 / 25,64083,776 / 38,000
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)83,776 / 38,000
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)5280 / 20
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 5.50 / 5
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)41 / 20.5058 / 2932 / 1653 / 26.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)63 / 160078.70 / 200064.60 / 164066.50 / 1690
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)127.60 / 880213.20 / 1470127.60 / 880120.40 / 830
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)16.54" x 23.62" / 420x60013.39" x 24.41" / 340x62014.96" x 22.83" / 380x58016.93" x 23.62" / 430x600
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)21.26" x 24.41" / 540x620
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)11,124 / 5045.7714,431 / 6545.808578 / 3890.9210,419 / 4725.98
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.46 4.80 4.47 6.14
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)167 - 1.969" / 50133 - 2.559" / 65148 - 1.969" / 50184 - 1.969" / 50
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)13.94 / 4.25 9.88 / 3.0114.17 / 4.3210.24 / 3.12
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)81.59 / 7.58107.86 / 10.0268.35 / 6.3594.19 / 8.75
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)13.46 / 1.2525.62 / 2.3810.76 / 115.61 / 1.45
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1186 / 110.151594 / 148.071064 / 98.81987 / 91.71
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1186 / 110.151594 / 148.071064 / 98.81987 / 91.71
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume201.91400.67229.08160.38
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation1717546213731879
Same as above plus superheater percentage1717546213731879
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area10,41122,996872111,340
Power L13636594841583161
Power MT322.91378.85478.48218.00

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