Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data fromThe Railway Age (18 October 1907), p. 557 and from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.. Works numbers were 27946-27955 in October 1903, 37603-37609 in May 1905, and 45108-45115 in December 1907. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.
Locobase 11405 Later in its lifetime, at least were fitted with superheaters as shown in the diagrams. The makeover reflected the usual tradeoffs: 150 small tubes were sacrificed for 24 flues, which held enought superheater elements to afford an adequate amount of steam enrichment. The locomotive was otherwise essentially unchanged, retaining its Belpaire firebox . The 28 sq ft of arch tubes now reflected in the data may have been in the firebox when delivered.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange .
Locobase 3950 described the original compound Consolidation locomotives. This entry tells us what happened when those compounds were simplified and superheated. See 1919 Railway Mechanical Engineer (RME) -- Volume 93, #12, page 700 -- for a description of trials of that conversion (which used 468, an F-9 locomotive). Note that the superheater area in the specs is estimated. It is a calculation based on taking the diagram value of 549 sq ft of "superheater equivalent" and deducting a third from it. See the logic presented in Locobase 1364. Also, the diagram gives the boiler pressure as 200 psi, but the values for tractive effort and factor of adhesion show a working pressure of 175 psi. Reducing BP when superheating a boiler was a tradeoff several railroads chose and the Soo's decrease in BP on the superheated G-class decapod suggests that the railroad did the same with these Consolidations.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from a table in the June 1907 issue of AERJ and Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007. See also "Lesson 1: Changing Landscapes-Topic 6: Railroads
Data from 1906 Railway Congress, Miscellaneous Information, pp.539-540; "Cross-Compound Consolidation for the "Soo" [sic] Line", . See also "The Compound Locomotive and the Superheater", Railway Age, Volume XXXIX [39], No. 15 (14 April 1905), pp. 586-587; and "Two-Cylinder Compound for the "Soo" Line, with Superheater", same issue, pp. 602-604; and "Compound Consolidation Locomotive with Superheater; Minneapolis, St. Paul & Sault Ste Marie Ry", Engineering News, Volume LIV, No. 21 (23 November 1905), pp. 537-538. Works number was 30458 in March 1905.
Before the Soo settled on the superheater conversions they would later apply to the F-9 class (and most others), they had to try out several versions. The unsigned analysis of the marriage of superheater and compounding viewed the combination as a logical step for a railroad whose traditions had been "entirely favorable to the 2-cylinder compound". Their experience was positive, "besides the saving in fuel in fuel and the increased hauling power on grades these engines have been uniformly light on repairs." As Engineering News described it in 1906, the superheater tubes measured 3 1/2" (89 mm) in outside diameter. "In each of these large tubes (and close to the upper side of the tube) is placed a 2-inch [50.8 mm] tube closed at the firebox-end and extending beyond the smoke-box tube plate to the rear compartment of a header or chamber in the smoke-box and 13 1/4" [337 mm] from the tube plate." Gases from the fire-box passed along the outside of the 2" tube. Inside of each of the 2" tubes was a 1.3" (33 mm) tube that was open at the fire-box end.. Saturated steam was let into the superheater header, passed through the smallest diameter tube to the rear, then back to the front in the 2" tube and then through the header to the HP cylinder. Such an arrangement of nested tubes must have constricted steam flow pretty badly; moreover, the superheated percentage of the engine's combined heating surface area was quite small. The concurrent experiment with Soo Moguls, which used larger 5" (127 mm) tubes (Locobase 16376), pointed the way to the layout that was widely adopted.
Data from Railway Mechanical Engineer of December 1919; "Converting Cross Compound Locomotives to Simple," Railway Age, Volume 67, No 22 (28 November 1919, "issued 12 December 1919"), p. 1062;, and Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from the 30 November 1900 Railroad Gazette and "Schenectady Locomotive on the 'Soo' Line", Railway and Locomotive Engineering, Volume 14, No 1 (January 1901), p. 38.
Mr. EA Williams, Mechanical Superintendent of the Minneapolis, St. Paul and Sault Ste Marie, must be described as adventurous at the least. In addition to a lone Vauclain compound Decapod, he procured these cross-compound Consolidations in the same year and would add to them over the next several years. Over the 165-mile (266 km) Minneapolis-Pennington Division these locomotives were rated at 1,692 short tons working compound. R&LE commented that the design "is one of the best proportioned compound locomotives that we have examined for some time."Indeed, the compounding ratio was 2.42, in the theoretical sweet spot for achieving equal power from both cylinders. But Drury notes that all 51 Schenectady cross-compounds were later simpled and superheated. See Locobase 6768 for a description of the F-7 makeover.
Data from Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007.
Data from "Locomotives at the Columbian Expostion - Second Article", Railroad Gazette, Volume 25 (27 October 1893), pp. 778, 780-781. See also Soo 9 - 1943 Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange collection; and James Dredge, A Record of the Transportation Exhibits at the World's Columbian Exposition of 1893 (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1894), pp. 261+. Roster data from Ron Kohlin's Soo Line pages at [], accessed 23 September 2007. Works numbers were 2842 in December 1892, 2843 in January 1893, 2878 in April, and 2969-2974 in July.
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media | |||||
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Class | F-10-S/F-21-S | F-10/F-21 | F-11 | F-12 / F-22 | F-20 - original |
Locobase ID | 8801 | 8800 | 8802 | 8804 | 11405 |
Railroad | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Wisconsin Central (Soo) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 |
Number in Class | 8 | 8 | 10 | 20 | 25 |
Road Numbers | 473-476/ 2425-24258 | 473-476, 2425-2428 | 475-484 | 485-499, 2429-2433 | 2400-2424 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 8 | 10 | 20 | 25 | |
Builder | Soo | Alco-Schenectady | Alco-Schenectady | Alco-Schenectady | Alco-Brooks |
Year | 1919 | 1909 | 1910 | 1911 | 1903 |
Valve Gear | Walschaert | Stephenson | Walschaert | Walschaert | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 25.92 / 7.90 | 25.92 / 7.90 | 26 / 7.92 | 26 / 7.92 | 25.50 / 7.77 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.65 | 0.65 | 0.67 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 55.80 / 17.01 | 55.76 / 17 | 57.12 / 17.41 | 57.12 / 17.41 | 56.46 / 17.21 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | 47,840 / 21,700 | 49,900 / 22,634 | |||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 177,220 / 80,386 | 174,000 / 78,925 | 194,000 / 87,997 | 200,100 / 90,764 | 142,000 / 64,410 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 205,060 / 93,014 | 201,500 / 91,399 | 221,000 / 100,244 | 229,360 / 104,036 | 163,400 / 74,117 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 118,740 / 53,860 | 116,900 / 53,025 | 124,400 / 56,427 | 124,400 / 56,427 | 129,100 / 58,559 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 323,800 / 146,874 | 318,400 / 144,424 | 345,400 / 156,671 | 353,760 / 160,463 | 292,500 / 132,676 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 6000 / 22.73 | 6000 / 22.73 | 6500 / 24.62 | 6500 / 24.62 | 6000 / 22.73 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 12 / 11 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 74 / 37 | 73 / 36.50 | 81 / 40.50 | 83 / 41.50 | 59 / 29.50 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 170 / 11.70 | 210 / 14.50 | 170 / 11.70 | 170 / 11.70 | 200 / 13.80 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 22.5" x 34" / 572x864 | 23" x 34" / 584x864 (1) | 25" x 30" / 635x762 | 25" x 30" / 635x762 | 21" x 26" / 533x660 |
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 35" x 34" / 889x864 (1) | ||||
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 39,479 / 17907.39 | 35,591 / 16143.83 | 43,006 / 19507.22 | 43,006 / 19507.22 | 30,940 / 14034.16 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.49 | 4.89 | 4.51 | 4.65 | 4.59 |
Heating Ability | |||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 178 - 2" / 51 | 332 - 2" / 51 | 290 - 2" / 51 | 277 - 2" / 51 | 306 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | 28 - 5.375" / 137 | 30 - 5.375" / 137 | 34 - 5.375" / 137 | ||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 15.75 / 4.80 | 15.75 / 4.80 | 15.50 / 4.72 | 15.50 / 4.72 | 13 / 3.96 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 158 / 14.68 | 158 / 14.68 | 184.30 / 17.13 | 187 / 17.38 | 156 / 14.50 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 46.89 / 4.36 | 46.89 / 4.36 | 52.75 / 4.90 | 52.75 / 4.90 | 47.25 / 4.39 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 2247 / 208.83 | 2897 / 269.24 | 3177 / 295.26 | 3177 / 295.26 | 2601 / 241.73 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 490 / 45.54 | 833 / 77.42 | 933 / 86.71 | ||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 2737 / 254.37 | 2897 / 269.24 | 4010 / 372.68 | 4110 / 381.97 | 2601 / 241.73 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 143.58 | 354.18 | 186.44 | 186.44 | 249.62 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 7971 | 9847 | 8968 | 8968 | 9450 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 9406 | 9847 | 10,851 | 11,030 | 9450 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 31,695 | 33,180 | 37,911 | 39,102 | 31,200 |
Power L1 | 8494 | 4295 | 12,147 | 13,104 | 6814 |
Power MT | 422.66 | 217.67 | 552.16 | 577.50 | 423.16 |
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media | |||||
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Class | F-20 - superheated | F-23 | F-7-S | F-8 | F-8-S |
Locobase ID | 8803 | 8805 | 6768 | 8798 | 8799 |
Railroad | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 |
Number in Class | 3 | 6 | 1 | 14 | 11 |
Road Numbers | 2405, 2407, 2417 | 2440-2445 | 428-430 | 431-444 | 431-444 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 6 | 14 | |||
Builder | Soo | Alco-Schenectady | shops | Alco-Schenectady | Alco-Schenectady |
Year | 1914 | 1919 | 1902 | 1920 | |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Walschaert | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 16 / 4.88 | 16.50 / 5.03 | 16.50 / 5.03 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 25.50 / 7.77 | 26 / 7.92 | 24.08 / 7.34 | 24.58 / 7.49 | 24.58 / 7.49 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.67 | 0.65 | 0.66 | 0.67 | 0.67 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 56.46 / 17.21 | 61.01 / 18.60 | 54.17 / 16.51 | 53.08 / 16.18 | 53.12 / 16.19 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | 41,600 / 18,869 | 42,500 / 19,278 | |||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 146,000 / 66,225 | 201,800 / 91,535 | 166,400 / 75,478 | 160,000 / 72,575 | 168,875 / 76,601 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 170,600 / 77,383 | 230,000 / 104,326 | 189,800 / 86,092 | 180,450 / 81,851 | 191,275 / 86,761 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 125,300 / 56,835 | 169,000 / 76,657 | 107,700 / 48,852 | 115,600 / 52,435 | 120,600 / 54,703 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 295,900 / 134,218 | 399,000 / 180,983 | 297,500 / 134,944 | 296,050 / 134,286 | 311,875 / 141,464 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 6000 / 22.73 | 9000 / 34.09 | 8000 / 30.30 | 6000 / 22.73 | 6000 / 22.73 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 12 / 11 | 14 / 13 | 7 / 6 | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 61 / 30.50 | 84 / 42 | 69 / 34.50 | 67 / 33.50 | 70 / 35 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 55 / 1397 | 55 / 1397 | 55 / 1397 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 200 / 13.80 | 170 / 11.70 | 175 / 12.10 | 210 / 14.50 | 210 / 14.50 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 21" x 26" / 533x660 | 25" x 30" / 635x762 | 22" x 30" / 559x762 | 22" x 30" / 559x762 (1) | 22" x 30" / 559x762 |
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 35" x 30" / 889x762 (1) | ||||
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 30,940 / 14034.16 | 43,006 / 19507.22 | 39,270 / 17812.59 | 33,778 / 15321.46 | 47,124 / 21375.11 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.72 | 4.69 | 4.24 | 4.74 | 3.58 |
Heating Ability | |||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 166 - 2" / 51 | 250 - 2" / 51 | 167 - 2" / 51 | 326 - 2" / 51 | 183 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | 24 - 5.375" / 137 | 36 - 5.375" / 137 | 28 - 5.375" / 137 | 28 - 5.375" / 137 | |
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 13.02 / 3.97 | 15.50 / 4.72 | 14 / 4.27 | 14.50 / 4.42 | 14.50 / 4.42 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 184 / 17.10 | 187 / 17.38 | 188.20 / 17.49 | 159 / 14.78 | 159 / 14.78 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 47.25 / 4.39 | 52.75 / 4.90 | 34.16 / 3.17 | 46.04 / 4.28 | 46.04 / 4.28 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1992 / 185.13 | 3000 / 278.81 | 1964 / 182.53 | 2633 / 244.70 | 2109 / 196 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 398 / 36.99 | 927 / 86.15 | 366 / 34.01 | 449 / 41.73 | |
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 2390 / 222.12 | 3927 / 364.96 | 2330 / 216.54 | 2633 / 244.70 | 2558 / 237.73 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 191.17 | 176.06 | 148.79 | 399.14 | 159.77 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 9450 | 8968 | 5978 | 9668 | 9668 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 11,057 | 11,120 | 6934 | 9668 | 11,409 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 43,056 | 39,420 | 38,205 | 33,390 | 39,400 |
Power L1 | 13,088 | 12,862 | 7534 | 3951 | 10,128 |
Power MT | 790.52 | 562.06 | 399.27 | 217.76 | 528.87 |
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media | |||||
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Class | F-9 | F-9 - superheater prototype | F-9-S | L/F-2 | N/F-3 |
Locobase ID | 5370 | 9709 | 6294 | 8785 | 8786 |
Railroad | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 |
Number in Class | 27 | 1 | 28 | 1 | 4 |
Road Numbers | 446-472 | 445 | 445-472 | 406 | 413-416 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 27 | 1 | 1 | 4 | |
Builder | Alco-Schenectady | Soo | Schenectady | Schenectady | Schenectady |
Year | 1905 | 1905 | 1919 | 1893 | 1893 |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Walschaert | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 17 / 5.18 | 14 / 4.27 | 14 / 4.27 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 25.92 / 7.90 | 25.92 / 7.90 | 25.14 / 7.66 | 21.33 / 6.50 | 21.33 / 6.50 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.68 | 0.66 | 0.66 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 55.69 / 16.97 | 55.69 / 16.97 | 55.79 / 17 | 49.83 / 15.19 | 49.83 / 15.19 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | 47,840 / 21,700 | ||||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 174,000 / 78,925 | 174,000 / 78,018 | 169,800 / 77,020 | 116,500 / 52,844 | 116,000 / 52,617 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 201,500 / 91,399 | 201,500 / 91,399 | 197,800 / 89,721 | 132,300 / 60,010 | 131,800 / 59,784 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 116,900 / 53,025 | 116,900 / 53,025 | 116,900 / 53,025 | 75,200 / 34,110 | 75,200 / 34,110 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 318,400 / 144,424 | 318,400 / 144,424 | 314,700 / 142,746 | 207,500 / 94,120 | 207,000 / 93,894 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 6000 / 22.73 | 6000 / 22.73 | 8000 / 30.30 | 4400 / 16.67 | 4400 / 16.67 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 8 / 7 | 8 / 7 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 73 / 36.50 | 73 / 36.50 | 71 / 35.50 | 49 / 24.50 | 48 / 24 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 63 / 1600 | 51 / 1295 | 51 / 1295 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 210 / 14.50 | 210 / 14.50 | 170 / 11.70 | 180 / 12.40 | 180 / 12.40 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 23" x 34" / 584x864 (1) | 23" x 34" / 584x864 (1) | 22.5" x 34" / 572x864 | 21.5" x 24" / 546x610 (1) | 20" x 26" / 508x660 (1) |
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 35" x 34" / 889x864 (1) | 35" x 34" / 889x864 (1) | 35" x 24" / 889x610 (1) | 30" x 26" / 762x660 (1) | |
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 35,591 / 16143.83 | 35,591 / 16143.83 | 39,479 / 17907.39 | 24,164 / 10960.62 | 21,600 / 9797.61 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.89 | 4.89 | 4.30 | 4.82 | 5.37 |
Heating Ability | |||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 332 - 2" / 51 | 224 - 2" / 51 | 178 - 2" / 51 | 250 - 2" / 51 | 250 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | 40 - 3.5" / 89 | 28 - 5.375" / 137 | |||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 15.75 / 4.80 | 15.75 / 4.80 | 15.75 / 4.80 | 12 / 3.66 | 12 / 3.66 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 158 / 14.68 | 157.97 / 14.68 | 158 / 14.68 | 114.24 / 10.62 | 114.24 / 10.62 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 46.85 / 4.35 | 46.85 / 4.35 | 46.89 / 4.36 | 30.04 / 2.79 | 30.04 / 2.79 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 2897 / 269.24 | 2566 / 238.48 | 2247 / 208.83 | 1686 / 156.69 | 1686 / 156.69 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 261 / 24.26 | 327 / 30.39 | |||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 2897 / 269.24 | 2827 / 262.74 | 2574 / 239.22 | 1686 / 156.69 | 1686 / 156.69 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 354.18 | 313.71 | 143.58 | 334.04 | 356.87 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 9839 | 9839 | 7971 | 5407 | 5407 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 9839 | 10,724 | 9008 | 5407 | 5407 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 33,180 | 36,159 | 30,352 | 20,563 | 20,563 |
Power L1 | 4295 | 6645 | 6821 | 2584 | 3247 |
Power MT | 217.67 | 336.77 | 354.25 | 195.60 | 246.84 |
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media | ||||
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Class | N/F-4 | O/F-7 | P/F-1 | T/F-6 |
Locobase ID | 8787 | 3950 | 8784 | 8788 |
Railroad | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) | Minneapolis, St Paul & Sault Ste Marie (Soo) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 | 2-8-0 |
Number in Class | 1 | 3 | 8 | 13 |
Road Numbers | 417 | 428-430 | 403-405, 407-411 | 400-402, 418-427 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 1 | 3 | 8 | 13 |
Builder | Schenectady | Schenectady | Schenectady | Rhode Island |
Year | 1893 | 1900 | 1893 | 1892 |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | ||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 14 / 4.27 | 16 / 4.88 | 14 / 4.27 | 15 / 4.57 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 21.33 / 6.50 | 24.09 / 7.34 | 21.33 / 6.50 | 22.50 / 6.86 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.66 | 0.67 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 49.83 / 15.19 | 53.75 / 16.38 | 49.83 / 15.19 | 50.42 / 15.37 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | ||||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 117,000 / 53,070 | 154,500 / 70,080 | 112,230 / 50,907 | 118,220 / 53,624 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 131,700 / 59,738 | 176,100 / 79,878 | 127,270 / 57,729 | 129,470 / 58,727 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 75,200 / 34,110 | 115,600 / 52,435 | 75,200 / 34,110 | 75,500 / 34,246 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 206,900 / 93,848 | 291,700 / 132,313 | 202,470 / 91,839 | 204,970 / 92,973 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 4400 / 16.67 | 6000 / 22.73 | 4400 / 16.67 | 3800 / 14.39 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 8 / 7 | 10 / 9 | 8 / 7 | 8 / 7 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 49 / 24.50 | 64 / 32 | 47 / 23.50 | 49 / 24.50 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 51 / 1295 | 55 / 1397 | 51 / 1295 | 50 / 1270 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 180 / 12.40 | 210 / 14.50 | 180 / 12.40 | 180 / 12.40 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 22" x 24" / 559x610 (1) | 22.5" x 30" / 572x762 (1) | 20" x 24" / 508x610 (1) | 21" x 24" / 533x610 (1) |
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 30" x 24" / 762x610 (1) | 35" x 30" / 889x762 (1) | 30" x 24" / 762x610 (1) | 32.5" x 24" / 826x610 (1) |
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 22,661 / 10278.87 | 34,877 / 15819.96 | 19,938 / 9043.74 | 22,848 / 10363.69 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 5.16 | 4.43 | 5.63 | 5.17 |
Heating Ability | ||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 250 - 2" / 51 | 320 - 2" / 51 | 250 - 2" / 51 | 216 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | ||||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 12 / 3.66 | 14 / 4.27 | 12 / 3.66 | 13.67 / 4.17 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 114.24 / 10.62 | 193 / 17.94 | 148 / 13.75 | 160 / 14.86 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 30.04 / 2.79 | 34.16 / 3.17 | 30.30 / 2.82 | 24.96 / 2.32 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1686 / 156.69 | 2549 / 236.90 | 1708 / 158.74 | 1700 / 157.93 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | ||||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1686 / 156.69 | 2549 / 236.90 | 1708 / 158.74 | 1700 / 157.93 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 319.17 | 369.06 | 391.52 | 353.57 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 5407 | 7174 | 5454 | 4493 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 5407 | 7174 | 5454 | 4493 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 20,563 | 40,530 | 26,640 | 28,800 |
Power L1 | 3518 | 4050 | 3815 | 3255 |
Power MT | 265.16 | 231.16 | 299.76 | 242.80 |