Data from "Haskell's Locomotive" Railway and Locomotive Engineering, July 1899, page 315.
Mr B Haskell, Superintendent of Motive Power, designed this small locomotive that had a relatively low cylinder volume. They were reported to achieve 60 engine-miles/ton vs the 40 em/ton put up by 17" cylinder engines
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
Schenectady delivered a few of these Eight-wheelers to the D GR & W in the last few years of the 19th-Century. This pair rolled on 67" drivers; see Locobase 9251 for the 69" driver locomotive.
Begun in 1870 as the Ionia & Lansing Rail Road Company, this line was renamed Detroit, Lansing & Northern. By 1896, the railroad had reorganized as the D GR & W. Four years later it was joined the Flint & Pere Marquette and the Chicago & West Michigan to form the Pere Marquette.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
This was the higher-drivered variant of the Schenectady designs of which 2 were delivered with 67" drivers (Locobase 9250). For some reason, the wheelbase of this design was shorter by quite a bit.
The Chicago & West Michigan began as the Paw Paw in 1867 when it first joined Lawton, Mich to Paw Paw. Within a year, the Paw Paw had been united with 14 other roads as the C & WM and ran from Bay View to New Buffalo along the shore of Lake Michigan. In 1900, it was merged with the Flint & Pere Marquett and the Detroit, Grand Rapids & Western as the Pere Marquette.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Works numbers were 4128-4129 in 1893.
The DL&N was reorganized as the Detroit, Grand Rapids & Western, which was combined with the Flint & Pere Marquette and the Chicago & West Michigan Railway to form the Pere Marquette in December 1899.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
This small Eight-wheeler was a locally manufactured pair (PM's works #112, 114) that were small and relatively low-powered. Perhaps they needed to restrict their efforts to lightly loaded axles. (Note: Million and Dixon show these engines as having been delivered by Manchester Locomotive Works to the Chicago & West Michigan.)
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
Homebuilt by the railroad, these were light and slippery Eight-wheelers. Million and Dixon report that these locomotives were delivered to the D GR & W by Manchester.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
The S T & H ran from Saginaw northeasterly to Sebewaing, thence to Bay Port in Huron County and eastward to Bad Axe. It was absorbed by the Pere Marquette in February 1900. The engine shown here was of a piece with most other pre-PM Eight-wheelers, although this one was older, smaller, and run at a lower pressure.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
Locobase doesn't know how many engines Manchester originally delivered to the C & WM. By 1900, when the line was merged with others to make up the Pere Marquette, the PM took 5 into its variegated stud of Eight-wheelers.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
A year after the C & WM took delivery of the Manchester batch described in Locobase 9256, it received these more-freight-oriented Eight-wheelers from Rhode Island. The boiler was smaller while the grate stayed the same. Driver diameter shrank by 4".
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
A year after the C & WM took delivery of the Manchester batch described in Locobase 9256, it received these more-freight-oriented Eight-wheelers from Rhode Island. The boiler was smaller while the grate stayed the same. Driver diameter shrank by 4".
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
The F & PM was, as would seem likely, a predecessor to the Pere Marquette. At the time of the purchase of this locomotive, traffic demands could not have been very great as this was a small locomotive with the typical power dimensions of the time.
Data from PM 3 1929 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Roster information developed by Art Million and Tom Dixon and presented on the Pere Marquette Historical Society website ([], accessed 1 March 2008).
Like many of the locomotives that rode the rails of the Pere Marquette's predecessor roads, this sextet differed from the others only in details. The boilers were about the same size as were the grates and the power dimensions varied even less. Very typical Eight-wheelers of the time.
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media | |||||
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Class | 117/E-6 | E1 | E1 | E2 | E3 |
Locobase ID | 9511 | 9250 | 9251 | 9252 | 9253 |
Railroad | Chicago & West Michigan (PM) | Detroit, Grand Rapids & Western (PM) | Chicago & West Michigan (PM) | Detroit, Lansing & Northern (PM) | Pere Marquette (PM) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
Number in Class | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
Road Numbers | 117 | 2-3 | 4 | 38-39/5-6 | 27-28 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
Builder | C&WM | Schenectady | Schenectady | Schenectady | PMRR |
Year | 1899 | 1897 | 1897 | 1893 | 1900 |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 8 / 2.44 | 9 / 2.74 | 8.58 / 2.62 | 9 / 2.74 | 8.58 / 2.62 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 22.67 / 6.91 | 24 / 7.32 | 21.08 / 6.43 | 24 / 7.32 | 23.08 / 7.03 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.35 | 0.38 | 0.41 | 0.38 | 0.37 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 44.92 / 13.69 | 43.83 / 13.36 | 44.92 / 13.69 | 44.58 / 13.59 | |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | |||||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 51,350 / 23,292 | 68,200 / 30,935 | 68,200 / 30,935 | 60,300 / 27,352 | 59,200 / 26,853 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 89,000 / 40,370 | 105,500 / 47,854 | 105,200 / 47,718 | 96,000 / 43,545 | 99,200 / 44,996 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 79,800 / 36,197 | 79,000 / 35,834 | 73,900 / 33,521 | 77,400 / 35,108 | |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 185,300 / 84,051 | 184,200 / 83,552 | 169,900 / 77,066 | 176,600 / 80,104 | |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 4000 / 15.15 | 4000 / 15.15 | 3300 / 12.50 | 3900 / 14.77 | |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 10 / 9 | 10 / 9 | 9 / 8 | 10 / 9 | |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 43 / 21.50 | 57 / 28.50 | 57 / 28.50 | 50 / 25 | 49 / 24.50 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 60 / 1524 | 67 / 1702 | 69 / 1753 | 67 / 1702 | 67 / 1702 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 180 / 1240 | 180 / 1240 | 180 / 1240 | 160 / 1100 | 180 / 1240 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 16" x 24" / 406x610 | 18" x 24" / 457x610 | 18" x 24" / 457x610 | 18" x 24" / 457x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 |
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 15,667 / 7106.44 | 17,757 / 8054.45 | 17,242 / 7820.85 | 15,784 / 7159.51 | 15,839 / 7184.46 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 3.28 | 3.84 | 3.96 | 3.82 | 3.74 |
Heating Ability | |||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 270 - 2" / 51 | 270 - 2" / 51 | 218 - 2" / 51 | 221 - 2" / 51 | |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | |||||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 10.83 / 3.30 | 10.83 / 3.30 | 12.33 / 3.76 | 11.58 / 3.53 | |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 158 / 14.68 | 159 / 14.78 | 144 / 13.38 | 133 / 12.36 | |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 16 / 1.49 | 17.70 / 1.64 | 17.70 / 1.64 | 18.50 / 1.72 | 17.50 / 1.63 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1867 / 173.51 | 1689 / 156.97 | 1690 / 157.06 | 1551 / 144.09 | 1473 / 136.90 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | |||||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1867 / 173.51 | 1689 / 156.97 | 1690 / 157.06 | 1551 / 144.09 | 1473 / 136.90 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 333.99 | 238.90 | 239.04 | 219.38 | 233.44 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 2880 | 3186 | 3186 | 2960 | 3150 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 2880 | 3186 | 3186 | 2960 | 3150 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 28,440 | 28,620 | 23,040 | 23,940 | |
Power L1 | 7048 | 7276 | 5739 | 6810 | |
Power MT | 455.66 | 470.41 | 419.65 | 507.21 |
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media | |||||
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Class | E3 | E5 | E5 | E5 | E5 |
Locobase ID | 9254 | 9255 | 9256 | 9257 | 9258 |
Railroad | Detroit, Grand Rapids & Western (PM) | Saginaw, Tuscola & Huron (PM) | Chicago & West Michigan (PM) | Chicago & West Michigan (PM) | Chicago & West Michigan (PM) |
Country | USA | USA | USA | USA | USA |
Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
Number in Class | 2 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 3 |
Road Numbers | 29-30 | 31 | 41-44, 46 | 47-51 | 52-54 |
Gauge | Std | Std | Std | Std | Std |
Number Built | 2 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 3 |
Builder | DGR&W | Rhode Island | Manchester | Rhode Island | Rhode Island |
Year | 1899 | 1885 | 1890 | 1891 | 1891 |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | |||||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 8.58 / 2.62 | 8.58 / 2.62 | 8.50 / 2.59 | 8.58 / 2.62 | 8.58 / 2.62 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 23.17 / 7.06 | 23.42 / 7.14 | 23.08 / 7.03 | 22.92 / 6.99 | 22.58 / 6.88 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.37 | 0.38 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 44.75 / 13.64 | 44.67 / 13.62 | 45.75 / 13.94 | 44.67 / 13.62 | 44.58 / 13.59 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | |||||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 59,200 / 26,853 | 60,600 / 27,488 | 58,400 / 26,490 | 58,200 / 26,399 | 57,000 / 25,855 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 100,000 / 45,359 | 96,200 / 43,636 | 91,900 / 41,685 | 90,900 / 41,232 | 91,000 / 41,277 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 81,500 / 36,968 | 68,800 / 31,207 | 74,900 / 33,974 | 73,500 / 33,339 | 73,700 / 33,430 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 181,500 / 82,327 | 165,000 / 74,843 | 166,800 / 75,659 | 164,400 / 74,571 | 164,700 / 74,707 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 3900 / 14.77 | 3000 / 11.36 | 3300 / 12.50 | 3500 / 13.26 | 3000 / 11.36 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 10 / 9 | 7 / 6 | 9 / 8 | 9 / 8 | 7 / 6 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 49 / 24.50 | 51 / 25.50 | 49 / 24.50 | 49 / 24.50 | 48 / 24 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | |||||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 67 / 1702 | 67 / 1702 | 67 / 1702 | 63 / 1600 | 67 / 1702 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 180 / 1240 | 150 / 1030 | 150 / 1030 | 150 / 1030 | 140 / 970 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 17" x 24" / 432x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 |
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 15,839 / 7184.46 | 13,199 / 5986.97 | 13,199 / 5986.97 | 14,037 / 6367.08 | 12,319 / 5587.81 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 3.74 | 4.59 | 4.42 | 4.15 | 4.63 |
Heating Ability | |||||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 221 - 2" / 51 | 200 - 2" / 51 | 198 - 2" / 51 | 205 - 2" / 51 | 205 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | |||||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 11.58 / 3.53 | 10.90 / 3.32 | 11.58 / 3.53 | 10.83 / 3.30 | 11 / 3.35 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 145 / 13.48 | 114 / 10.59 | 142 / 13.20 | 126 / 11.71 | 135 / 12.55 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 17.10 / 1.59 | 17 / 1.58 | 17.50 / 1.63 | 17.50 / 1.63 | 17.20 / 1.60 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1485 / 138.01 | 1255 / 116.64 | 1351 / 125.56 | 1288 / 119.70 | 1315 / 122.21 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | |||||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1485 / 138.01 | 1255 / 116.64 | 1351 / 125.56 | 1288 / 119.70 | 1315 / 122.21 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 235.34 | 198.89 | 214.10 | 204.12 | 208.40 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | |||||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 3078 | 2550 | 2625 | 2625 | 2408 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 3078 | 2550 | 2625 | 2625 | 2408 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 26,100 | 17,100 | 21,300 | 18,900 | 18,900 |
Power L1 | 7040 | 4844 | 5471 | 4787 | 4930 |
Power MT | 524.34 | 352.45 | 413.06 | 362.66 | 381.36 |
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media | ||
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Class | E5 | E5 |
Locobase ID | 9259 | 9260 |
Railroad | Flint & Pere Marquette (PM) | Detroit, Grand Rapids & Western (PM) |
Country | USA | USA |
Whyte | 4-4-0 | 4-4-0 |
Number in Class | 1 | 6 |
Road Numbers | 55 | 58-61, 67-68 |
Gauge | Std | Std |
Number Built | 1 | 6 |
Builder | Schenectady | Manchester |
Year | 1888 | 1883 |
Valve Gear | Stephenson | Stephenson |
Locomotive Length and Weight | ||
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) | 8.25 / 2.51 | 8.58 / 2.62 |
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m) | 22.58 / 6.88 | 23.25 / 7.09 |
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase | 0.37 | 0.37 |
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m) | 44.17 / 13.46 | 44.75 / 13.64 |
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg) | ||
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg) | 51,500 / 23,360 | 55,900 / 25,356 |
Engine Weight (lbs / kg) | 87,300 / 39,599 | 89,100 / 40,415 |
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg) | 70,400 / 31,933 | 76,800 / 34,836 |
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg) | 157,700 / 71,532 | 165,900 / 75,251 |
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML) | 2900 / 10.98 | 3300 / 12.50 |
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) | 6.50 / 6 | 8 / 7 |
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m) | 43 / 21.50 | 47 / 23.50 |
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort | ||
Driver Diameter (in / mm) | 69 / 1753 | 67 / 1702 |
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa) | 150 / 1030 | 150 / 1030 |
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm) | 17" x 24" / 432x610 | 17" x 24" / 432x610 |
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg) | 12,817 / 5813.70 | 13,199 / 5986.97 |
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) | 4.02 | 4.24 |
Heating Ability | ||
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm) | 195 - 2" / 51 | 205 - 2" / 51 |
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm) | ||
Flue/Tube length (ft / m) | 11.15 / 3.40 | 10.83 / 3.30 |
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2) | 117 / 10.87 | 142 / 13.20 |
Grate Area (sq ft / m2) | 14.90 / 1.38 | 17.40 / 1.62 |
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1255 / 116.64 | 1304 / 121.19 |
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2) | ||
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2) | 1255 / 116.64 | 1304 / 121.19 |
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume | 198.89 | 206.66 |
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information) | ||
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation | 2235 | 2610 |
Same as above plus superheater percentage | 2235 | 2610 |
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area | 17,550 | 21,300 |
Power L1 | 5030 | 5346 |
Power MT | 430.65 | 421.68 |