Five more 4-8-2s (road numbers 1450 through 1454) came from ALCO in 1925. These locomotives had three 25" x 28" cylinders, 73" drivers, a 200 psi boiler pressure and exerted 61,100 lbs of tractive effort. By 1931 DL&W had rebuilt them as two cylinder locomotives.
In 1926 and 1927, the DL&W received thirty more "Mountains" (road numbers 2201 through 2235) from ALCO to be used as pushers and to drag coal trains. These locomotives had three cylinders, two 25 x 32 outside cylinders driving the third drivers and one 25 x 28 inside cylinder driving a crank on the second axle. With 73" drivers and a boiler pressure of 200 psi they exerted 77,600 lbs of tractive effort.
By 1950, all of the DL&W "Mountains" were gone and there are no surviving examples.
|Qty.||Road Numbers||Year Built||Builder||Remarks|
|5||1450-1454||1925||ALCO||3 cylinders rebuilt as 2 cylinders|
Data from set of DL&W locomotive diagrams at  (29 October 2003); and DL&W 7 - 1927, DLW 7 - 1940 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in August 2013 and May 2005, respectively, by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange collection . See also Robert A LeMassena, "The USRA HEAVY 4-8-2 [Locobase 232] and its Illustrious Ascendants", Railway & Locomotive Historical Society Newsletter (Volume 23, #2 - Spring 2003). (Thanks to Chris Hohl for his 21 August 2019 noting the two different valve gear setups fitted to the class over its career.) Works numbers were 65418-65422 in March 1924.Firebox heating surface included 35 sq ft (3.25 sq m) in four arch tubes. Each cylinder was fed through a 14" (356 mm) piston valve. They would later receive Barco F-3B floating low-water alarms and friction bearings on the three truck axles were replaced by Timken roller bearings. Drury (1993) says these five Mountains (the first on the line) were bought to eliminate double-heading passenger trains on the grades east of Scranton, PA. But they were soon relegated to local service because of their lack of speed. Chris Hohl notes that in 1933, the 1401, the DL&W's shops took out the Baker valve gear and replaced it with Walschaert machinery and redesignated its class as P-1a; the other four went through a similar conversion in 1938 and were also reclassified P-1a. Hohl also noticed that the class's coal capacity increased to 16 tons (14.5 metric tons) and that the railroad updated the class ID to P-1a. When the Atlantic Coast Line found itself short of power in World War II, the Lackawanna realized it could spare this class and sold all five to the ACL in January 1943. As the J-1s, these were put in service between Tampa, Fla and Albany, Ga until their retirement in 1951-1952.
Data from tables in 1930 Locomotive Cyclopedia. See also DL&W 7 - 1933 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley. (Thanks to Chris Hohl for his 11 November 2012 email noting a discrepancy in road numbers.) Works numbers were 66163-66164 in April 1925 and 66428-66430 in September.Water-tube firebox. Three-cylinder passenger locomotive, two with Baker gear (P-2), three with Walschaert (P-3). Followed two years later by heavier, low-drivered freight version (Locobase 2230) with lots of tractive effort, but much lower adhesive factor. According to Farrington (Railroading Coast to Coast, 1976), the DL&W's Scranton Shops removed the center cylinder in 1940. Drury, 1993, says this occurred much earlier, in 1930-1931 and the two cylinders were enlarged to 28" x 32" (711 x 813 mm). The locomotive diagrams confirm Drury and show also that, as modified, 1450 and 1452 had 11" (279 mm) piston valves and 1451, 1453-1454 had 14" (356 mm) piston valves. All of the engines used Walschaert gear at that point, but the P-2's (1450-1451) valve travel measured 7 1/2" (191 mm) while the P-3a valves traveled 9" (229 mm).
Data from tables in 1930 Locomotive Cyclopedia and DL&W 7 - 1933 Locomotive Diagrams supplied by Allen Stanley in May 2005. Works numbers were 66954-66964 in September; 66965-67524 in October, and 67525 in November.Firebox heating surface are included 80 sq ft (7.43 sq m) in Superior E-type thermic syphons and 24 sq ft (2.23 sq m) of arch tubes . Low-drivered, three-cylinder locomotive with a low adhesive factor. The two outside cylinders had 32-in strokes and drove the third axle while the inside cylinder had a 28-in stroke powering the second axle. This class followed a high-drivered (73") class in which all three cylinders had the same length stroke. The three cylinders each had a 12" (305 mm) piston valve. Because these freight locomotives put less demand for maintenance on that hard-to-get-at center cylinder, the Lackawanna left the arrangement intact throughout the class's lifetime. Retirement came in 1946-1950.
Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media
|Railroad||Delaware, Lackawanna & Western||Delaware, Lackawanna & Western||Delaware, Lackawanna & Western|
|Number in Class||5||5||35|
|Road Numbers||1401-1405||1450-1454||2201-2225, 2226-2235|
|Valve Gear||Baker||Baker or Walschaert||Baker|
|Locomotive Length and Weight|
|Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)||18.75 / 5.71||19 / 5.79||17.50 / 5.33|
|Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)||41 / 12.50||41.67 / 12.70||39.92 / 12.17|
|Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase||0.46||0.46||0.44|
|Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)||77.17 / 23.52||77.83 / 23.72||75.79 / 23.10|
|Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)|
|Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)||257,500 / 116,800||256,000 / 116,120||276,500 / 125,418|
|Engine Weight (lbs / kg)||376,000 / 170,551||382,000 / 173,272||397,500 / 180,303|
|Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)||217,300 / 98,566||218,600||215,500 / 97,749|
|Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)||593,300 / 269,117||600,600||613,000 / 278,052|
|Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)||12,000 / 45.45||12,000 / 45.45||12,000 / 45.45|
|Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)||14 / 13||16 / 13||14 / 13|
|Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)||107 / 53.50||107 / 53.50||115 / 57.50|
|Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort|
|Driver Diameter (in / mm)||69 / 1753||73 / 1854||63 / 1600|
|Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)||210 / 14.50||200 / 13.80||200 / 13.80|
|High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)||28" x 30" / 711x762||25" x 28" / 635x711 (3)||25" x 32" / 635x813|
|Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)||25" x 28" / 635x711 (1)|
|Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)||60,845 / 27598.86||61,130 / 27728.13||77,579 / 35189.28|
|Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort)||4.23||4.19||3.56|
|Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)||285 - 2" / 51||285 - 2" / 51||285 - 2" / 51|
|Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)||50 - 5.375" / 137||50 - 5.375" / 137||50 - 5.375" / 137|
|Flue/Tube length (ft / m)||21 / 6.40||21 / 6.40||21 / 6.40|
|Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)||389 / 36.15||393 / 36.52||420 / 39.03|
|Grate Area (sq ft / m2)||80.40 / 7.47||80 / 7.43||80 / 7.43|
|Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)||4978 / 462.64||4982 / 463.01||5010 / 465.61|
|Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)||1292 / 120.07||1290 / 119.89||1292 / 120.07|
|Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)||6270 / 582.71||6272 / 582.90||6302 / 585.68|
|Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume||232.83||208.80||275.64|
|Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)|
|Robert LeMassena's Power Computation||16,884||16,000||16,000|
|Same as above plus superheater percentage||20,430||19,360||19,360|
|Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area||98,845||95,106||101,640|