4-4-0 "American" Steam Locomotives in the USA

Chicago & Atlantic / Erie / Erie & Wyoming Valley / New York, Lake Erie & Western / New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio


Class Details by Steve Llanso of Sweat House Media

Class 100 (Locobase 12550)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.269. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 251-252 in March 1851, 257-258 in April, 261 in May, and 263 in June.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate. A photograph on page 35 of the Railway & Locomotive Historical Society Bulletin 167's compilation Rogers, Ketchum & Grosvenor locomotive production shows the 102. It was of classic American locomotive form: long "cowcatcher" leading, tall, broad balloon stack over closely spaced truck axles, inside-connected cylinders, single splasher/running board over the drivers, small, ornate dome over the firebox, and paired arched windows in the cab/


Class 11 (Locobase 12530)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 113 (Locobase 12551)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.269. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 68-69 in May 1851.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 115 (Locobase 12552)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.270. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 70-71 in June 1851, 74-75 in July.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 119 (Locobase 12553)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.270. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) See also Edward Harold Mott, Between the Ocean and the Lakes (New York: John S Collins, 1899). For the tandem compound conversion, see C. Ritic [sic], "First Compound Locomotive in America", Railway and Locomotive Engineering , Volume XXVII [27], No 1 (January 1914), p. 8; and John H White, A History of the American Locomotive, Its Development 1830-1880 (Baltimore: Johns Hopkins Press, 1968, reprinted with slight corrections by Dover Press (1979), p. 210. (Boston Locomotive Works was renamed for Hinkley.) Works numbers were 307-308, 306, 309-310 in June 1851, 312 in July.

Note the long stroke on this locomotive, which, together with the small drivers, meant relatively high piston speeds that might have challenged contemporary lubrication.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.

All but the 122 retained their original machinery during their careers. 120 was retired by 1867, 119 by 1870, and 121, 123, and 124 by 1876.

John White's account supports the claim by "C.Ritic" that the 122, converted by Shepard Iron Works of Buffalo in 168 or 1869, was the first compound locomotive to operate in the United States. J L Lay filed for a patent for the tandem system that affirmed as US 70341 on 28 October 1867.

A high-pressure cylinder in front and a low-pressure cylinder to its rear were assembled a single unit on either side of the boiler. Their centerlines were aligned to allow a single piston rod to move both pistons. Steam entered the HP cylinder through a valve mounted on its top, exhausted through a short pipe to enter the larger-diameter LP cylinder through its valve.

Lay's description of the intent and process shows full understanding of the benefits gained by reusing steam rather than expelling its remaining potential up the stack. "[U]tilizing more of the power, and by obviating the necessity of such intense heat in the furnace, and maintaining by the low, pressure exhaust [allows] a steady and uniform combustion, edecting a great saving in fuel ...The combustion of the fuel is more perfect, steady, and 'complete under the low pressure of the exhaust, which may be made through large openings of the pipes instead of the contracted nozzles, rendering the draught .more steady and uniform, and the consumption of fuel more economical, and carrying fewer sparks out through the smoke-stack."

He asserted that any arrangement of HP and LP cylinders (such as the HP concentric with the LP) would not change the essential principle. White wrote in 1968 that diagrams often showed slide valves for steam admittance. Lay wrote that while he preferred "oscillating valves", any type would do. White's analysis leaned toward the slide valve, each pair's actuation being controlled by a single valve rod.

As manufactured by SIW, the motion used a 12" (305 mm) HP cylinder and a 26" (660 mm) LP cylinder on each side; stroke for both was 24" (610 mm). White's verdict awarded the palm to Lay's concept: "The tandem system was sound, the parts were well-designed." Yet no other tandem compound ever appeared based on Lay's patent (whose existence may have simply been unknown or ignored by later tandem-compound designers). White noted drawbacks. The compounding ratio was much too high at about 4:1 and it wouldn't steam at any rate because its draught was so weak.


Class 133 (Locobase 12554)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.269. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were approximately 36-37 in November and December 1851 and 41 in January 1851.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 14 (Locobase 12531)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) 14-16 were delivered in August, October, and December 1848 and 36-39 arrived in March 1849 (2), May, and July.

Essentially repeats of the 11 class shown in Locobase 12530 with taller drivers and a slightly smaller grate and firebox.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 142 (Locobase 12555)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.270. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 18 (Locobase 12532)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

Shows a haystack boiler, straight stack, inclined outside cylinders over closely spaced bogie axles.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 209 (Locobase 9315)

Data from American v English Locomotives, Correspondence, Criticism, and Commentary respecting Their Relative Merits (New York: Robert K Pease, 1880), pp. 36-37. Works numbers not available. Produced in April 1855 (2), July, and September.

The publication of which the edition used by Locobase was a reprint was a document presented to both Houses of the General Assembly of New Zealand by Command of His Excellency in 1878. At issue was how the demand for motive power on New Zealand's railways should be met - through the purchase of the mother country's locomotives or by continuing to buy American engines.

To back up a rebuttal to a critic of American locomotive design, W W Evans cites Zerah Colburn's 1855 test of an Erie locomotive when he was General Manager. (Gerald M Best's thoroughly researched Erie roster presented in Railroad History Bulletin 131 of the Railway & Locomotive History Society concludes that the American engine was one of four produced by the NJL&M.)

Colburn first assembled a train of 100 cars loaded with "deals" weighing a total of 1,572 long tons and "a few feet more than half a mile long" and ran it along a nearly level (ruling grade of 0.12% or 1 in 880) gradient for 4 miles at 5 mph. On a "dead-level" 5-mile section that had gentle curves of 957-foot radius, the locomotive managed 9.7 mph. Then Colburn cut the trailing load to 30 cars weighing 514 tons and recorded the train ascending a 1 in 117.5 (0.45%) grade at 10.25 mph.

Evans concludes:"Allowing for resistances due to gravity and also to concussions and frictions of engine and train, the coefficient of adhesion must have been 1/3 the weight on driving wheels." In later measurements, the fraction of adhesion (weight on drivers divided by tractive effort) comes to 3.14. So slippery a proportion suggests a very careful manipulation of throttle and liberal use of sand in all of these trials.

209 was rebuilt by the Susquehanna shops in March 1869, a makeover that increased engine weight to 78,000 lb (35,380 kg). 210 was converted to a tank engine with the same 4-4-0 layout. 210-212 were all retired by 1878.


Class 30 (Locobase 16659)

Data from "Standard Passenger Locomotive from Brooks Locomotive Works", Railroad Gazette, Volume 15 (17 August 1883), p. 538. Works numbers were 843, 897-899, 911, 904 in 1883. (C&A numbers 26-29 came out of the Dunkirk shops bearing works numbers 777-780 in September 1882.)

In trying to tighten the RG's identification of this exhibit at the 1883 Chicago Exposition,

Locobase found an embarassment of choices. Every 4-4-0 on the roster came from Brooks After its 1890 bankruptcy, the C&A reorganized as the Chicago & Erie. Controlled by the Erie Railroad through stock percentage, the C&E remained independent until 1941 although the Erie operated the railroad.

Three of the six locomotives fell to the scrapper before they reached 20 years service. 309 went next in June 1905, followed by 307 in July 1909 nd 308 in January 1915.


Class 40 (Locobase 12536)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 185 in August 1849, 186-187 in September (road numbers 43-45); 207 in March 1850 (road 42), 201, 203 in July. (40-41).

Shows a haystack boiler, straight stack, inclined outside cylinders over closely spaced bogie axles. According to Sinclair, this design had "nearly the same dimensions and weight" as the 30-31 shown in Locobase 12532. Only the weights were different.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 48 (Locobase 12537)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 52 (Locobase 12539)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.). Gerald M Best's Erie roster--Railway & Locomotive Historical Society Bulletin 131--credits this trio to Hinkley as their works 249, 252, 254 in November-December 1849.

Sinclair said that this trio came from west of the Appalachians. Western was a general-equipment producer whose Cuyahoga Works turned locomotives as well as ships and many other kinds of machinery. Since most sources show the Cuyahoga as producing its first locomotive a year later, Locobase adopts the later research by several authoritative sources.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 64 (Locobase 12541)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.268. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 223-224 in August 1850.

Described as having "extreme outside connections" which Locobase supposes means the cylinders were outside and drove on the rear adhesive axle.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 66 (Locobase 12543)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.268. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works number was 229 in September 1850.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate. Although delivered only a month after the pair shown in Locobase 12542, this engine had a larger boiler and grate.


Class 70 (Locobase 12542)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.). Works numbers were 20-21 in October 1850.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 84 (Locobase 12545)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) See also Edward Harold Mott, Between the Ocean and the Lakes (New York: John S Collins, 1899), p. 396.

This pair was among the last of Norris's engines to be procured in the United States and their layout shows how far behind the times the company had fallen. Notice, though, the very unusual bore and stroke ratio and the very high factor of adhesion.

Mott pronounces a harsh sentence on the "Plank Roads", as he says they were nicknamed. They arrived with "...sevenfoot drivers, and cylinders 15x20, outside-connected, and fire-box not much larger than an ordinary cooking range. The cylinders were placed aft of the smoke arch and steam pipe, out of doors, between the dome and steam-chest. There was a running board from the back end of the footboard entirely around to the other side."

Built for speed, they could turn a sprightly wheel, says Mott: "With two or three coaches, on the Susquehanna Division, after getting under headway, the engineers would make good time with these; but it took a mile start to get them under way." He later quotes an 1853 account of the 84 covering the 145 miles between Susquehanna and Holmesville in 161 minutes (55 mph), which was no mean accomplishment.

But he adds: "They were a failure, of course." And a locomotive disliked by its crew can come in for some pretty unpleasant treatment: "No engineer wanted to run them, and the last one in train service (No. 84), on its very last trip, was ripped to pieces by Mike Barnwell, its engineer, who, it was said, stopped his train just after passing Gulf Summit, west bound, took a wrench and loosened up set-screws and pins, and whistled off brakes, whereupon the whole of her machinery was cleaned off. "

NB: Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class 90 (Locobase 12549)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.269. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) See also Edward Harold Mott, Between the Ocean and the Lakes (New York: John S Collins, 1899).

Notable for being a relatively large homogeneous class by a builder that would be known as Hinkley Locomotive Works.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class A/D-1 (Locobase 359)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970), tables in "The Locomotives of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", American Engineer & Railroading Journal, Vol LXVIII, No 12 (December 1894), pp. 564-566, and the Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

30 engines built by Brooks, Danforth, Grant, and the Erie's own Susquehanna shop from 1880 to 1882.


Class A/D-16 (Locobase 9227)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

Originally the Atlantic & Great Western, this line was an important component in the Erie system and spent much of its life leased to the Erie, in receivership, or both. 1882 saw a much deeper involvement in the Nypano (as the NY, P & O was more familiarly known) that culminated years later in the retirement of NY, P & O securities in favor of Erie paper.

As Edward Harold Mott described the union in Between the Ocean and the Lakes: The Story of Erie (1907)

" The long-conflicting, costly, and harassing relations of the Erie with this railroad were at last set at rest forever by an agreement whereby the Erie should operate the road at a fixed annual rental until it could be sold under foreclosure proceedings and reorganized into the Erie system. After due proceedings in the courts, the property was sold at public auction February 25, 1896, and purchased by a committee in behalf of the Erie."

During its "separate" existence, the railroad's shops at Meadville and Galion built this class of Eight-wheelers. They were slightly larger versions of the design that would later be classed as D-17; see Locobase 9226.


Class A/D-2 (Locobase 360)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and tables in "The Locomotives of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", American Engineer & Railroading Journal, Volume LXVIII [68], No 12 (December 1894), pp. 564-566.

37 engines built at Susquehanna shops (except for 458, built by Grant) from 1882 to 1885. Compared to the D-1s, these had much bigger fireboxes, originally had boiler pressures between 100-115 psi.

Other than a few disposed of before the turn into the 20th Century and a few that survived into the teens, the entire class was scrapped between 1900-1910.


Class B/D-3 (Locobase 361)

Data from Erie 1907 and Alvin F Staufer's Erie Steam Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange collection.

Over 120 engines received new frames and other changes when the NYLE&W converted from the original six-foot gauge. Susquehanna shop turned out 77, but couldn't handle all of the work so it sub-contracted with Grant of Paterson, NJ (35), Dickson of Scranton, P (8), and Jersey City (1). Grant's rebuild appears in Locobase 16395.

The new boiler was smaller than the D-2.


Class Bradford (Locobase 12534)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 346 in January 1849, 348 in March, and 349-350 in April.

These were the low-drivered Eight-wheelers ordered with the passenger engines shown in Locobase 12533 as a single batch.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class CA & CE / D-17 (Locobase 9226)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

Although these homebuilt Eight-wheelers had small grates and boilers even for the mid-1870s, they stood relatively high in the amount of weight they put on their drivers. And they showed a good amount of tractive effort. The last ten were assigned to the Chicago & Atlantic..

The NY, P & O shops would add to the stud with engines later classified as D-16s; see Locobase 9227.


Class D-12 (Locobase 9223)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

The first high-drivered Eight-wheelers on the Erie came into service in 1896 (See Locobase 9221) and built new by the Susquehanna shops. Three years later, Meadville shops came out with 4 of their own. The table at the front implies that these were rebuilds of D-9 (Locobase 9222), which were smaller and older.

Locobase finds that unlikely, given the larger grate and bigger boiler, the latter pressed to a much higher pressure. Moreover, there's one more D-12 than there were D-9s. So these are new Express engines to go with the D-11s supplied by Susquehanna.


Class D-14 (Locobase 9224)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

This locomotive was converted by Cooke to a cross-compound layout, according to Westing, but the cylinder dimensions are not given, or what we see in the diagram is the HP cylinder only. In any case, it was a "one-off".


Class D-15 (Locobase 9225)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Works numbers were 15454-15455.

These were the last two D6/D7 Vauclain compounds that had been converted from earlier simple expansion Eight-wheelers (Locobase 6695). The compounding ratio thus was a hefty 2.85. It can't have been too long before the engines were simplified as shown in the specfications.


Class D-18 (Locobase 9228)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. See also DeGolyer, Volume 13, p. 262. Works numbers were 8717 8725

The Pennsylvania Coal Company bought these two camelbacks from Baldwin with an obvious eye toward operating mountain-oriented local passenger service. Unfortunately, the image of the Baldwin specs is blurry and the data are incomplete. They were rebuilt by Dickson in 1896 ( that's what this entry's specifications describe) and later taken into the Erie when that railroad bought the E & WV from Pennsylvania Coal.


Class D-3 (Locobase 16395)

Data from Erie 1907 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange collection. See also tables in "The Locomotives of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", American Engineer & Railroading Journal, Vol LXVIII, No 12 (December 1894), pp. 564-566.

It seems only fair to describe Grant as the builder of these locomotives, although they were rebuilt from earlier engines. They had new boilers and big grates in fireboxes mounted over the axles and thus perhaps 2" (51 mm) wider.

After the reconstruction, the class remained in service for more than two decades in most cases. Only one engine remained in service beyond 1910, somehow avoiding the scrapyard until 1922.

316 was converted to an inspection engine in 1905; see Locobase 16396.


Class D-4 (Locobase 362)

Although classed as D-4s, the first of these engines preceded the earlier D-series engines. The D-1s that succeeded them had larger boilers and 18 x 22 in pistons. 72 D-4s were built in Susquehanna, Brooks, Manchester, and Dickson for several different railroads.

Although the Erie numbered its D-4s from 100-183, inclusively, the designation covered locomotives built as early as 1861 and as late as 1883, so the data in the specs are representative, not necessarily definitive.

Customers included several railoads that ultimately were absorbed by the Erie., These were the Buffalo & Jamestown (reorganized in December 1877 as Buffalo & SouthWestern), Atlantic & Great Western (reorganized in March 1880 as the New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio), New York, Lake Erie & Western, and Chicago & Erie.


Class D-5 - rebuilt simple (Locobase 363)

Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. See also DeGolyer, Volume 20, p. 194.

Much larger 4-4-0 and one of the last for the Erie. The wide grate indicated the camelback layout, which has the steam dome behind the cab. These two engines started out as New York & Lake Erie engines 66-67, built by Danforth, Cooke and delivered in 1880.

Baldwin rebuilt them for the Erie (works numbers were 15056-15057 in September 1896), working according to a statement in the specs: "Old engines to be dismantled by the Extra Works Department. Parts used are to be put in repair by ExWkDept and used as though new parts from stock. ExWkDept to scrap parts not fit for use." The specs also provided a complete list of the parts they expected to reuse and those they would have to manufacture.

385's specs included the guarantee that it would pull 8 cars up a 1% grade.

386 was scrapped first in March 1913 with 385 following in December 1920.


Class D-6/D-7 - compound rebuild (Locobase 6695)

Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. See also Data from "Rebuilt Erie Locomotive", Locomotive Engineering, Vol XI, No 2 (February 1898), p. 82. See also several DeGolyer entries: Volume 20, pp. 195, 237 ; Volume 21, pp. 20, 43, 104. Works numbers were 15231-15240, 152790-15282; 15297-15300 in April; 15311-15315 in May; 15420-15428, 15441-15446 in July.

This was a large class of camelback Eight-wheelers that were converted from simple expansion engines. Baldwin rebuilt them for the Erie,, working according to a statement in the specs: "Old engines to be dismantled by the Extra Works Department. Parts used are to be put in repair by ExWkDept and used as though new parts from stock. ExWkDept to scrap parts not fit for use." The specs also provided a complete list of the parts they expected to reuse and those they would have to manufacture. DeGolyer, Volume 20, p. 237 and Volume 21, pp. 21, 42, 105 lists all the parts transferred from each older engine to its corresponding compound modification.

Most were rebuilt with the 324 1 1/2" tubes as shown here; the last two were rebuilt with a smaller number of 2" tubes (Locobase 9218).

Like the 385, 386's specs included the guarantee that it would pull 8 cars up a 1% grade.

The tiny HP cylinders limited the whole Vauclain compound system's ability to handle the steam. Each set of an HP and an LP cylinder was served by a 10 1/2" (267 mm) piston valve.

Nevertheless, according to LE, "These engines are reported to be doing excellent work in service, much superior to that performed when they were simple."

All but two, however, were converted in 1904-1905 to simple expansion in several variants. One such conversion resulted in dimensions identical to those of the D-5 (see Locobase 363). Others were more substantially altered; see Locobase 6696 and 6697.


Class D-6/D-7 - simple, D flue (Locobase 6697)

Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

Converting the D-6 class of camelback Eight-wheelers led to three different versions. This one is identified on the diagram as having a D flue sheet (as opposed to the straight flue sheet shown in Locobase 6697).


Class D-6/D-7 - simple, strt flue (Locobase 6696)

Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

This was a large class of camelback Eight-wheelers. When the D-6 Vauclain compounds were simpled, three different versions resulted. This one is identified on the diagram as having a straight flue sheet (as opposed to the D flue sheet shown in Locobase 6697). Locobase does not know why a "straight flue sheet" would result in so many fewer tubes and so small a firebox, even though the overall heating surface area rose.


Class D-7 - large tubes (Locobase 9218)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. See also DeGolyer, Volume 21, p. 104. Works numbers 15233, 15238, 15295, 15420, 15425-15428, 15451.

The Erie threw itself into Vauclain compounding, rebuilding more than four dozen engines from earlier 4-4-0s. Although almost all had the large boiler housing 324 1 1/2" tubes (Locobase 6995), the last two were rebuilt with a smaller number of larger-diameter tubes as shown here. Note the small size of both the HP cylinders (each served by the same 10 1/2" (267 mm) piston valve that supplied its companion LP cylinder).

Like the D-6s, these were soon simplified; see Locobase 9219.


Class D-7 - simple, combustion chbr (Locobase 9219)

Data from Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

As noted in Locobase 6695 and 6697, simplifying the Vauclain compounds that had been created out of earlier locomotives took several forms. The D-7 compound that was the source of the current entry (see Locobase 9218) originally had 2" tubes. A variant not reflected in the D-6 series was one in which a combustion chamber added some heating surface to the firebox, but reduced tube length and consequently required more of the tiny 1 1/2" tubes.


Class D-9 (Locobase 9222)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange.

This locomotive was converted by Cooke to a cross-compound layout, according to Westing, but the cylinder dimensions are not given, or what we see in the diagram is the HP cylinder only. In any case, it was a ""one-off""."


Class E B Thomas/D-13 (Locobase 9217)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Works numbers was 2252 in April 1893.

The only locomotive in its class, the EB Thomas appeared in the Chicago World's Fair as part of the Paterson, NJ builder that turned it out.

The 1907 diagram shows that during a rebuilding, the shops removed seven tubes from the boiler, reducing the count to 265. The firebox area also decreased to 165 sq ft (15.3 sq m) and overall evaporative heating surface to 1,842 sq ft (171.2 sq m). Meanwhile, adhesion weight rose to 96,060 lb (43,572 kg) and overall engine weight increased to 136,930 lb (62,110 kg).

Still running solo, the engine served another 41 years before it was scrapped in April 1934.


Class Genessee (Locobase 12535)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 160-161 in February 1849.

Shows a haystack boiler, straight stack, inclined outside cylinders over closely spaced bogie axles. The second engine was named Onondaga.

Several more Erie locomotives had the same basic attributes (17" x 20" cylinders, 60" drivers) and were delivered in the same year. Works numbers 185-186 in August 1849 took road numbers 43-44. Works numbers 201, 203, and 207 in January, February, and March 1850, respectively, were numbered 46 (or possibly 40), 41, and 42.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class Inspection engine (Locobase 16396)

Data from Erie 1907 Locomotive Diagrams supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange collection. (Many thanks to Chris Hohl for his extensive research and his 3 December 2018 email, spreadsheet, and article link. Chris particularly cites Ron Goldfeder for his article, "The Inspection Locomotive." Railroad History. Spring-Summer 2012. Number 206. pgs. 20 & 32, and further assistance.)

Delivered by Grant in 1884 (Locobase 16395) as an extensive rebuild of an earlier locomotive, the 316 underwent a major conversion into a typical inspection engine. Like other such machines, the 1's cab was replaced by a cabin that rested on the running board and ran from the smokebox to rear of the footplate. Each side presented seven windows for up to eight persons seated in four chairs to a side.

The firebox and boiler remained intact, but the data suggest that both were new or nearly new.

Unusually for such locomotives, the 1 was restored as a standard 4-4-0 in 1913. After another decade of Erie service, the 1 was sold to the Ringling Brothers.


Class K/D-8 (Locobase 6014)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970), Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange, and tables in "The Locomotives of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", American Engineer & Railroading Journal, Vol LXVIII, No 12 (December 1894), pp. 564-566.

AERJ noted that at that point this class was in heavy commuter service with local expresses. Also used for division work in express service.


Class M/D-10 (Locobase 9220)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. See also "High Speed Passenger Locomotive of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", National Car & Locomotive Builder, Volume XIX [19], No 4 (April 1888), pp. 52-54: and "Express Locomotive, New York, Lake Erie & Western", Railroad Gazette, Volume 18, No 1 (6 January 1888), p. 3-4.

Among the Eight-wheelers turned out by the Erie's Susquehanna shops was this duodecade of relatively large locomotives with equally sizable grates. Designed by superintendent of motive power John W Cloud, this was typical of the high-speed designs being offered, according to NCLB's editor Van Arsdale. "The engine bears evidence throughout of very careful and thoughtful design, the proportion of parts and the distribution of weight being exceptionally good."

The engine's wagon top boiler gave Van Arsdale a chance to assert his preference for that design over the increasingly popular Belpaire firebox. "We have watched the Belpaire form of firebox with close attention, and we have yet to find the first locomotive with that form of firebox that does not give more or less trouble by entraining water with the steam."

Van Arsdale noted that the use of anthracite coal dictated the large grate and firebox.

Most of the class was scrapped in the late-teens and 1920s. Two--479 and 481--were sold in February 1922 to the Dayton, Toledo & Chicago.


Class Monroe (Locobase 12528)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

Note that this Erie is about twice the size of the 4-5 (Locobase 12527).

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class Orange (Locobase 12527)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair refers to the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.)

The #5 was named Ramapo.

NB: Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class Q/D-9 (Locobase 6016)

Data from Westing's Erie Power (1970) and tables in "The Locomotives of the New York, Lake Erie & Western Railroad", American Engineer & Railroading Journal, Vol LXVIII, No 12 (December 1894), pp. 564-566. Works numbers were 3963-3965, 3967-3968 in July 1888.

Westing says the driver diameter was 68", but the diagram accompanying the AERJ table shows 62".


Class Tioga (Locobase 12533)

Data from Angus Sinclair, Development of the Locomotive Engine (New York: Angus Sinclair Publishing, 1907), p.266. (Sinclair attributes the 1853 American Railway Journal article from which he derived the information to Zerah Colburn.) Works numbers were 344 in December 1848, 345 in January 1849, 347 in February, 351 in May.

Passenger engines built to the same specs as the Rogers engines shown in Locobase 12532, these engines were named Tioga, Chemung, Tompkins, and Seneca. This batch of locomotives were the last Baldwins to use the inside half-crank axle for turning the drivers.

Boiler pressure is a Locobase estimate.


Class X/D-11 (Locobase 9221)

Data from "New Erie Passsenger Engine", Locomotive Engineering, Volume 9, No 6 (June 1896), pp, 451-453. See also Westing's Erie Power (1970) and Erie 1907 locomotive diagram book supplied in May 2005 by Allen Stanley from his extensive Rail Data Exchange. Built at the Susquehanna shops

Most of the Erie's assortment of Eight-wheelers were mixed-traffic engines, but this pair were intended for express passenger service. Its long firebox was designed to burn anthracite coal, although the firebox lay inside the frame and above the driving axles. A tall slender dome sat on the thicker of the two boiler courses and over the first driving axle. A sharp taper along the top line led forward to a more slender course with a second, smaller sand dome.

The Xs were followed three years later by four similar locomotives with bigger cylinders; see Locobase 9222.

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class10011113115119
Locobase ID12550 12530 12551 12552 12553
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class63246
Road Numbers100-10511, 13, 15113-114115-118119-124
Gauge6'6'6'6'6'
Number Built63246
BuilderRogers, Ketchum & GrosvenorSwinburne, Smith & CoTauntonTauntonBoston Locomotive Works
Year18511848185118511851
Valve Gear
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)37,400 / 16,96431,000 / 14,061
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)57,500 / 26,08250,900 / 23,08858,060 / 26,33652,675 / 23,893
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)31 / 15.5026 / 13
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)72 / 182954 / 137260 / 152460 / 152460 / 1524
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)17" x 20" / 432x50817" x 20" / 432x50817" x 20" / 432x50818" x 20" / 457x50816" x 26" / 406x660
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)6824 / 3095.329098 / 4126.798188 / 3714.029180 / 4163.989429 / 4276.93
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 5.48 3.29
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)80.67 / 7.5068.50 / 6.3690 / 8.3690 / 8.3683.50 / 7.76
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)15.50 / 1.4412.88 / 1.2016.50 / 1.5316.13 / 1.5015.75 / 1.46
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)853 / 79.281023 / 95.041029 / 95.63947 / 87.98876 / 81.38
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)853 / 79.281023 / 95.041029 / 95.63947 / 87.98876 / 81.38
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume162.48194.86196160.78144.79
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation15501288165016131575
Same as above plus superheater percentage15501288165016131575
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area80676850900090008350
Power L128722341281723722138
Power MT338.59304.10

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class1331414218209
Locobase ID12554 12531 12555 12532 9315
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class37254
Road Numbers133-13514-16, 36-39142-14318-19, 28-29, 32209-212
Gauge6'6'6'6'6'
Number Built37254
BuilderNew Jersey LocomotiveSwinburne, Smith & CoEssex CompanyRogers, Ketchum & GrosvenorNew Jersey Locomotive
Year18511848185218481855
Valve Gear
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)27,900 / 12,65536,450 / 16,53335,750 / 16,21640,100 / 18,189
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)50,980 / 23,12459,900 / 27,17058,250 / 26,42256,500 / 25,62866,100 / 29,982
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)41,500 / 18,824
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)107,600 / 48,806
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)23 / 11.5030 / 1530 / 1533 / 16.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)60 / 152460 / 152454 / 137272 / 152460 / 1524
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690130 / 900
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)16" x 20" / 406x50817" x 20" / 432x50817" x 20" / 432x50817" x 20" / 432x50817" x 24" / 432x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)7253 / 3289.918188 / 3714.029098 / 4126.796824 / 3095.3212,774 / 5794.20
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 3.41 4.01 5.24 3.14
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)190 - 1.875" / 48
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)11 / 3.35
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)54.25 / 5.0459.50 / 5.5376.67 / 7.1367.50 / 6.27
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)12.13 / 1.1312.13 / 1.1316 / 1.4913 / 1.2110.38 / 0.96
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)725 / 67.351014 / 94.241103 / 102.51990 / 92.01
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)725 / 67.351014 / 94.241103 / 102.51990 / 92.01
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume155.91193.14210.10188.57
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation12131213160013001349
Same as above plus superheater percentage12131213160013001349
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area5425595076676750
Power L12142249825483034
Power MT394.78308.22374.20

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class3040485264
Locobase ID16659 12536 12537 12539 12541
RailroadChicago & Atlantic (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class66132
Road Numbers30-35/224-229/304-30940-454852-5464-65
GaugeStd6'6'6'6'
Number Built66132
BuilderBrooksRogers, Ketchum & GrosvenorSwinburne, Smith & CoHinkleyRogers, Ketchum & Grosvenor
Year18831849184918491850
Valve GearStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m)8 / 2.44
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)22.58 / 6.88
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.35
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)42.50 / 12.95
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)48,000 / 21,77232,000 / 14,51532,100 / 14,56030,050 / 13,63035,600 / 16,148
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)74,000 / 33,56656,000 / 25,40150,700 / 22,99747,920 / 21,73655,600 / 25,220
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)2640 / 10
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)40 / 2027 / 13.5027 / 13.5025 / 12.5030 / 15
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)67 / 170260 / 152460 / 152460 / 152460 / 1524
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)135 / 930100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)17" x 24" / 432x61017" x 20" / 432x50816" x 20" / 406x50815" x 20" / 381x50817" x 20" / 432x508
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)11,879 / 5388.238188 / 3714.027253 / 3289.916375 / 2891.658188 / 3714.02
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.04 3.91 4.43 4.71 4.35
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)166 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)11.50 / 3.51
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)103.21 / 9.5961.50 / 5.7260.25 / 5.6059.50 / 5.5357.67 / 5.36
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)16.45 / 1.5313 / 1.2113 / 1.2110 / 0.9313.25 / 1.23
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1093 / 101.54984 / 91.45845 / 78.53771 / 71.65853 / 79.28
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1093 / 101.54984 / 91.45845 / 78.53771 / 71.65853 / 79.28
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume173.22187.43181.72188.51162.48
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation22211300130010001325
Same as above plus superheater percentage22211300130010001325
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area13,9336150602559505767
Power L138442460246526122174
Power MT353.11338.96338.59383.26269.26

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
Class66708490A/D-1
Locobase ID12543 12542 12545 12549 359
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class1221030
Road Numbers6670-7184-8590-99
Gauge6'6'6'6'Std
Number Built1221030
BuilderRogers, Ketchum & GrosvenorSwinburne, Smith & CoNorrisBoston Locomotive Worksseveral
Year18501850185118511880
Valve GearStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)23.04 / 7.02
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.37
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)46.37 / 14.13
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)26,500 / 12,020
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)33,900 / 15,37738,950 / 17,66730,840 / 13,98951,500 / 23,360
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)56,500 / 25,62853,000 / 24,04057,450 / 26,05949,510 / 22,45780,700 / 36,605
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)77,000 / 34,927
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)157,700 / 71,532
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)3600 / 13.64
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 8.90 / 8
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)28 / 1432 / 1626 / 1343 / 21.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)72 / 182972 / 182984 / 213466 / 167668 / 1727
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690100 / 690130 / 900
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)17" x 20" / 432x50817" x 20" / 432x50814" x 32" / 356x81316" x 20" / 406x50818" x 22" / 457x559
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)6824 / 3095.326824 / 3095.326347 / 2878.956594 / 2990.9911,583 / 5253.97
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.97 6.14 4.68 4.45
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)168 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)11.50 / 3.51
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)75.50 / 7.0271.25 / 6.6254.50 / 5.0762.67 / 5.82108 / 10.04
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)14 / 1.3013.50 / 1.2511.50 / 1.0710 / 0.9317 / 1.58
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)948 / 88.101020 / 94.80763 / 70.91782 / 72.681120 / 104.09
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)948 / 88.101020 / 94.80763 / 70.91782 / 72.681120 / 104.09
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume180.57194.29133.86168.17172.84
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation14001350115010002210
Same as above plus superheater percentage14001350115010002210
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area755071255450626714,040
Power L130303146254325913774
Power MT409.19287.87370.44323.12

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassA/D-16A/D-2B/D-3BradfordCA & CE / D-17
Locobase ID9227 360 361 12534 9226
RailroadNew York, Pennsylvania & Ohio (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class1145121437
Road Numbers409-419/425-46122, 24-26
GaugeStdStdStd6'Std
Number Built1145437
BuilderErieErieseveralM W BaldwinErie
Year18811882187918491874
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.598 / 2.44
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)22.96 / 722.92 / 6.9922.29 / 6.7922.25 / 6.78
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.37 0.37 0.38 0.36
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)46.21 / 14.0845.92 / 1445.29 / 13.8045.75 / 13.94
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)29,010 / 13,15928,300 / 12,83726,400 / 11,97526,150 / 11,861
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)55,760 / 25,29255,400 / 25,12951,300 / 23,26932,600 / 14,78750,150 / 22,748
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)85,400 / 38,73784,400 / 38,28379,100 / 35,87954,500 / 24,72180,000 / 36,287
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)77,000 / 34,92777,000 / 34,92777,000 / 34,92777,000 / 34,927
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)162,400 / 73,664161,400 / 73,210156,100 / 70,806157,000 / 71,214
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)3600 / 13.643600 / 13.643600 / 13.643600 / 13.64
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)8 / 7 8.90 / 88 / 78 / 7
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)46 / 2346 / 2343 / 21.5027 / 13.5042 / 21
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)68 / 172768 / 172762 / 157560 / 152468 / 1727
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)140 / 970130 / 900130 / 900100 / 690140 / 970
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)18" x 24" / 457x61018" x 22" / 457x55918" x 22" / 457x55917" x 20" / 432x50817" x 24" / 432x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)13,608 / 6172.4911,583 / 5253.9712,704 / 5762.448188 / 3714.0212,138 / 5505.71
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.10 4.78 4.04 3.98 4.13
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)173 - 2" / 51157 - 2" / 51157 - 2" / 51144 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)11.08 / 3.3811.50 / 3.5111.50 / 3.5111 / 3.35
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)105 / 9.76114.50 / 10.64111 / 10.3260 / 5.58104 / 9.67
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)16 / 1.4926 / 2.4226 / 2.4212.88 / 1.2015 / 1.39
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1109 / 103.071050 / 97.581060 / 98.51998 / 92.75933 / 86.71
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1109 / 103.071050 / 97.581060 / 98.51998 / 92.75933 / 86.71
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume156.86162.04163.58190.10147.86
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation22403380338012882100
Same as above plus superheater percentage22403380338012882100
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area14,70014,88514,430600014,560
Power L136673689334824723654
Power MT289.97293.60287.76334.34321.26

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassD-12D-14D-15D-18D-3
Locobase ID9223 9224 9225 9228 16395
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie & Wyoming Valley (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class612219
Road Numbers461-466469329-33026-27/103-104/114-115334-352/300-304, 306, 310-316, 293-294, 291-292
GaugeStdStdStdStdStd
Number Built6219
BuilderErieCookeERRBurnham, Williams & CoGrant
Year18991897189718871884
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 7.50 / 2.29 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)23.62 / 7.2022.92 / 6.9923.33 / 7.1121.67 / 6.6122.92 / 6.99
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.36 0.37 0.36 0.35 0.37
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)51.63 / 15.7447.25 / 14.4047.67 / 14.5346.42 / 14.1545.92 / 14
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)44,000 / 19,95842,100 / 19,09643,500 / 19,73137,050 / 16,80626,400 / 11,975
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)87,325 / 39,61082,600 / 37,46786,000 / 39,00973,050 / 33,13551,300 / 23,269
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)135,525 / 61,473129,500 / 58,740128,200 / 58,151104,700 / 47,49179,100 / 35,879
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)116,800 / 52,98087,900 / 39,87187,900 / 39,87174,000 / 33,56677,000 / 34,927
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)252,325 / 114,453217,400 / 98,611216,100 / 98,022178,700 / 81,057156,100 / 70,806
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)6000 / 22.734500 / 17.054500 / 17.053600 / 13.643600 / 13.64
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)12 / 119 / 89 / 85 / 5 8.90 / 8
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)73 / 36.5069 / 34.5072 / 3661 / 30.5043 / 21.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)76 / 193068 / 172768 / 172762 / 157562 / 1575
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)180 / 1240180 / 1240180 / 1240140 / 970115 / 790
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)18" x 26" / 457x66017.5" x 24" / 445x61017.5" x 22" / 445x55918" x 24" / 457x61018" x 22" / 457x559
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)16,959 / 7692.4816,538 / 7501.5215,159 / 6876.0114,925 / 6769.8711,238 / 5097.48
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 5.15 4.99 5.67 4.89 4.56
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)256 - 2" / 51186 - 2" / 51191 - 2" / 51180 - 2" / 51157 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)11.75 / 3.5812.58 / 3.8312.41 / 3.7810.31 / 3.1411.50 / 3.51
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)140 / 13.01125 / 11.62152 / 14.13146 / 13.57111 / 10.31
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)27 / 2.5168 / 6.3268 / 6.3268 / 6.3226 / 2.42
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1704 / 158.361350 / 125.461392 / 129.371118 / 103.901060 / 98.48
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1704 / 158.361350 / 125.461392 / 129.371118 / 103.901060 / 98.48
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume222.45202.10227.45158.13163.58
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation486012,24012,24095202990
Same as above plus superheater percentage486012,24012,24095202990
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area25,20022,50027,36020,44012,765
Power L171566031717337812962
Power MT361.32321.94367.76228.22254.58

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassD-4D-5 - rebuilt simpleD-6/D-7 - compound rebuildD-6/D-7 - simple, D flueD-6/D-7 - simple, strt flue
Locobase ID362 363 6695 6697 6696
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class72123
Road Numbers101-112, 115-159, 165-183, 333385329-376, 386
GaugeStdStdStdStdStd
Number Built721
BuilderseveralBurnham, Williams & CoBurnham, Williams & Coshopsshops
Year18741896189719041904
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)22.92 / 6.9923 / 7.0123.33 / 7.1123.33 / 7.11
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.37 0.37 0.36 0.36
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)47.25 / 14.4047.67 / 14.5347.67 / 14.5347.67 / 14.53
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)38,500 / 17,46339,600 / 17,96242,500 / 19,27842,500 / 19,278
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)47,350 / 21,47875,000 / 34,01978,000 / 35,38084,300 / 38,23884,300 / 38,238
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)74,000 / 33,566111,000 / 50,349121,000 / 54,885125,700 / 57,017125,700 / 57,017
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)87,900 / 39,87187,900 / 39,87187,900 / 39,87187,900 / 39,871
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)198,900 / 90,220208,900 / 94,756213,600 / 96,888213,600 / 96,888
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)4500 / 17.054500 / 17.054500 / 17.054500 / 17.05
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)9 / 89 / 89 / 89 / 8
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)39 / 19.5063 / 31.5065 / 32.5070 / 3570 / 35
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)62 / 157568 / 172768 / 172768 / 172768 / 1727
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)130 / 900180 / 1240180 / 1240180 / 1240180 / 1240
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)17" x 24" / 432x61017.5" x 22" / 445x55912.5" x 22" / 318x55917.5" x 22" / 445x55917.5" x 22" / 445x559
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)21" x 22" / 533x559
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)12,362 / 5607.3215,159 / 6876.0111,422 / 5180.9415,159 / 6876.0115,159 / 6876.01
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 3.83 4.95 6.83 5.56 5.56
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)324 - 1.5" / 38324 - 1.5" / 38185 - 2" / 51299 - 1.5" / 38
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)10.18 / 3.1010.18 / 3.1012.41 / 3.7812.93 / 3.94
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)90163 / 15.15163 / 15.14127 / 11.80128 / 11.90
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)17 / 1.5868 / 6.3268 / 6.3268 / 6.3267.80 / 6.30
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)930 / 86.431458 / 135.501458 / 135.451320 / 122.681636 / 152.04
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)930 / 86.431458 / 135.501458 / 135.451320 / 122.681636 / 152.04
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume147.39238.24467.21215.69267.32
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation221012,24012,24012,24012,204
Same as above plus superheater percentage221012,24012,24012,24012,204
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area11,70029,34029,34022,86023,040
Power L129387577525865177587
Power MT273.59445.45297.23340.87396.83

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassD-7 - large tubesD-7 - simple, combustion chbrD-9E B Thomas/D-13Genessee
Locobase ID9218 9219 9222 9217 12535
RailroadErie (ERR)Erie (ERR)New York, Pennsylvania & Ohio (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class2512
Road Numbers329-33023, 38, 43, 45, 51/300, 304-307/420-42449930-31
GaugeStdStdStdStd6'
Number Built2512
BuilderBurnham, Williams & CoshopsRogersCookeRogers, Ketchum & Grosvenor
Year18971897188818931849
Valve GearStephensonStephensonStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)22.83 / 6.9622.83 / 6.9623.46 / 7.1523.56 / 7.18
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.37 0.37 0.36 0.36
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)48.37 / 14.7446.79 / 14.2649.69 / 15.15
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)44,990 / 20,40744,900 / 20,36633,000 / 14,96951,280 / 23,260
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)87,330 / 39,61286,500 / 39,23665,400 / 29,66588,750 / 40,25633,500 / 15,195
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)125,300 / 56,835125,900 / 57,107106,600 / 48,353134,600 / 61,05454,500 / 24,721
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)87,900 / 39,87187,900 / 39,87177,000 / 34,92787,900 / 39,871
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)213,200 / 96,706213,800 / 96,978183,600 / 83,280222,500 / 100,925
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)4500 / 17.054500 / 17.053600 / 13.644500 / 17.05
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)9 / 89 / 88 / 79 / 8
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)73 / 36.5072 / 3655 / 27.5074 / 3728 / 14
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)72 / 182968 / 172768 / 172772 / 182960 / 1524
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)180 / 1240180 / 1240150 / 1030160 / 1100100 / 690
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)12.5" x 22" / 318x55917.5" x 22" / 445x55918" x 24" / 457x61019" x 26" / 483x66017" x 20" / 432x508
Low Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)21" x 22" / 533x559
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)10,787 / 4892.9115,159 / 6876.0114,580 / 6613.3817,729 / 8041.758188 / 3714.02
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 8.10 5.71 4.49 5.01 4.09
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)185 - 2" / 51324 - 1.5" / 38221 - 2" / 51272 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)12.41 / 3.7810.18 / 3.1011.50 / 3.5112.08 / 3.68
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)123 / 11.43153 / 14.22132 / 12.27187 / 17.3761.50 / 5.72
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)68 / 6.3268 / 6.3217 / 1.5836.30 / 3.3713 / 1.21
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1325 / 123.141437 / 133.551463 / 135.971894 / 175.96984 / 91.45
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1325 / 123.141437 / 133.551463 / 135.971894 / 175.96984 / 91.45
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume424.59234.80206.93222.04187.43
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation12,24012,240255058081300
Same as above plus superheater percentage12,24012,240255058081300
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area22,14027,54019,80029,9206150
Power L147517340510563682460
Power MT239.88374.15344.18316.37323.78

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassInspection engineK/D-8M/D-10MonroeOrange
Locobase ID16396 6014 9220 12528 12527
RailroadNew York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)Erie (ERR)Erie (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class151212
Road Numbers1401-405305-316/470-481104-5
GaugeStdStdStd6'6'
Number Built51212
BuilderErieErieErieNorrisNorris
Year19051883188718471841
Valve GearStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)22.28 / 6.7923.46 / 7.15
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.38 0.36
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)46.25 / 14.1048.92 / 14.91
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)36,260 / 16,44736,900 / 16,73840,600 / 18,416
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)70,310 / 31,89272,600 / 32,93180,400 / 36,46926,880 / 12,19321,000 / 9525
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)107,400 / 48,716103,600 / 46,992117,400 / 53,25243,920 / 19,92230,700 / 13,925
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)90,750 / 41,16477,000 / 34,92777,000 / 34,927
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)198,150 / 89,880180,600 / 81,919194,400 / 88,179
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)4500 / 17.053600 / 13.643600 / 13.64
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT)6 / 6 8.90 / 88 / 7
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)59 / 29.5061 / 30.5067 / 33.5022 / 1118 / 9
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)62 / 157568 / 172768 / 172760 / 152455 / 1397
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)115 / 790140 / 970145 / 1000100 / 690100 / 690
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)18" x 22" / 457x55918" x 22" / 457x55919" x 24" / 483x61012.38" x 26" / 314x66010.75" x 18" / 273x457
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)11,238 / 5097.4812,474 / 5658.1215,704 / 7123.225645 / 2560.533215 / 1458.30
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 6.26 5.82 5.12 4.76 6.53
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)157 - 2" / 51225 - 2" / 51246 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)10.83 / 3.3011.50 / 3.5111.50 / 3.51
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)116.30 / 10.80158 / 14.68179 / 15.1554 / 5.0233 / 3.07
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)26 / 2.4232 / 2.9740 / 3.7210 / 0.93 7.50 / 0.70
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1069 / 99.311503 / 139.681649 / 152.79762 / 70.82376 / 34.94
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1069 / 99.311503 / 139.681649 / 152.79762 / 70.82376 / 34.94
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume164.97231.94209.26210.50198.94
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation2990448058001000750
Same as above plus superheater percentage2990448058001000750
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area13,37522,12025,95554003300
Power L130275615530528512624
Power MT189.83341.02290.93467.66550.95

Principal Dimensions by Steve Llanso of Middle Run Media
ClassQ/D-9TiogaX/D-11
Locobase ID6016 12533 9221
RailroadNew York, Pennsylvania & Ohio (ERR)Erie (ERR)New York, Lake Erie & Western (ERR)
CountryUSAUSAUSA
Whyte4-4-04-4-04-4-0
Number in Class552
Road Numbers23, 38, 43, 45, 5120-21, 23, 27500-501
GaugeStd6'Std
Number Built552
BuilderRogersM W BaldwinErie
Year188818481896
Valve GearStephensonStephenson
Locomotive Length and Weight
Driver Wheelbase (ft / m) 8.50 / 2.59 8.50 / 2.59
Engine Wheelbase (ft / m)25.46 / 7.7623.46 / 7.15
Ratio of driving wheelbase to overall engine wheelbase 0.33 0.36
Overall Wheelbase (engine & tender) (ft / m)48.79 / 14.8749.83 / 15.19
Axle Loading (Maximum Weight per Axle) (lbs / kg)32,400 / 14,69650,000 / 22,680
Weight on Drivers (lbs / kg)65,400 / 29,66534,800 / 15,78590,250 / 40,937
Engine Weight (lbs / kg)106,600 / 48,35356,500 / 25,628133,550 / 60,577
Tender Loaded Weight (lbs / kg)77,000 / 34,92787,900 / 39,871
Total Engine and Tender Weight (lbs / kg)183,600 / 83,280221,450 / 100,448
Tender Water Capacity (gals / ML)3600 / 13.644500 / 17.05
Tender Fuel Capacity (oil/coal) (gals/tons / Liters/MT) 8.90 / 89 / 8
Minimum weight of rail (calculated) (lb/yd / kg/m)55 / 27.5029 / 14.5075 / 37.50
Geometry Relating to Tractive Effort
Driver Diameter (in / mm)62 / 157572 / 182976 / 1930
Boiler Pressure (psi / kPa)150 / 1030100 / 690180 / 1240
High Pressure Cylinders (dia x stroke) (in / mm)18" x 24" / 457x61017" x 20" / 432x50819" x 24" / 483x610
Tractive Effort (lbs / kg)15,991 / 7253.406824 / 3095.3217,442 / 7911.57
Factor of Adhesion (Weight on Drivers/Tractive Effort) 4.09 5.10 5.17
Heating Ability
Tubes (number - dia) (in / mm)221 - 2" / 51264 - 2" / 51
Flues (number - dia) (in / mm)
Flue/Tube length (ft / m)12.50 / 3.8111.50 / 3.51
Firebox Area (sq ft / m2)132 / 12.2765.75 / 6.11172 / 15.98
Grate Area (sq ft / m2)17 / 1.5812.88 / 1.2036.50 / 3.39
Evaporative Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1453 / 135.041004 / 93.311762 / 163.69
Superheating Surface (sq ft / m2)
Combined Heating Surface (sq ft / m2)1453 / 135.041004 / 93.311762 / 163.69
Evaporative Heating Surface/Cylinder Volume205.52191.24223.60
Computations Relating to Power Output (More Information)
Robert LeMassena's Power Computation255012886570
Same as above plus superheater percentage255012886570
Same as above but substitute firebox area for grate area19,800657530,960
Power L1463230467586
Power MT312.29385.94370.62

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